very small gas tank....

tod osier

tod osier

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I was thinking since I live solidly in a mandated ethanol fuel area .... if I had a small fuel tank full of nonethanol fuel (which is $$$$ around here) that I could attach to my outboard a few minutes before getting back to the ramp that I could maintain the engine with non ethanol in the system during storage. Maybe not do it every trip when I'm actively hunting, but before the season close, before leaving town for a couple months, in between clamming trips (in the duck off season, I can go a month or two between trips). My motor likes being left with the carbs not drained, but having etoh in there messes with the rubber bits in there according to my marine tech.

Does a very small portable tank exist? 1/2 gallon or gallon? Can one be made easily or cheaply (if yes, what from)?

It needs to be red too.
 
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I looked for a while and never found one. I carried a bullet thermos like this to carry extra gas for my 6hp mud motor. I'll bet you could fashion something with an outboard hose connector and a plastic pickup tube.


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Tod:
Check out MSR fuel bottles---they're intended to hold white gas for camping stoves and lanterns. They're durable, compact, and don't leak. I've been using the same two for over 25 years. You can purchase special spouts to make pouring easier.
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Tod,

Might do a search for mini bike fuel tank.
Two biggest hurdles would be (a) sizing up the outlet hose to match the outboard fitting. (B) fuel out on the bottom of these tanks but CG regs call for outlet to draw from the top of the tank.
This one holds one liter of fuel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Gas-Fuel-Tank-Fit-Quad-Pit-Dirt-Pocket-Bike-Scooter-2-Stroke-43-47-49cc-US/311776617688?epid=2130499687&hash=item489755a4d8:g:aSwAAOSwCU1YyRJg

To avoid the second (B) issue, one could only use the non-compliant tank at home and run the engine on muffs for as long as needed. I know it's an extra step but,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ?
 
I just pull the fuel line off the motor as I'm approaching the ramp and run the motor until it dies. I have been doing this on all my motors since day one and have never had a fuel related issue or needed to rebuild my carbs.
 
Just mix blue marine stabil each tank full and don,t worry about carb mess up. Mix it at storage rate as noted on container. Been using it for several years after several problems when gas switched over. I use it in everything from mowers to chainsaws, hedge trimers, weed wackers and of course my two 2 stroke mercs. Never a problem and on the saws sometimes they set 6 months between use. Helps also on carbed outboards if you can run them out approaching dock to do so. That won,t work for fuel injected motors .If in any doubt after motor has set a long time dump fuel reservoir before restarting and pump fresh gas from tank into it. That reservoir is where setting fuel will usually deteriorate quickest.
 
I think you may be on to something. I may try that, it would be no problem to run it in the driveway since I run it to flush after being in the salt. Real gas with stabil in the system would be a good combo for me.


Huntindave McCann said:
Tod,

Might do a search for mini bike fuel tank.
Two biggest hurdles would be (a) sizing up the outlet hose to match the outboard fitting. (B) fuel out on the bottom of these tanks but CG regs call for outlet to draw from the top of the tank.
This one holds one liter of fuel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Gas-Fuel-Tank-Fit-Quad-Pit-Dirt-Pocket-Bike-Scooter-2-Stroke-43-47-49cc-US/311776617688?epid=2130499687&hash=item489755a4d8:g:aSwAAOSwCU1YyRJg

To avoid the second (B) issue, one could only use the non-compliant tank at home and run the engine on muffs for as long as needed. I know it's an extra step but,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ?
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Several times I had problems with bad fuel while out working and couldn't get back in.
I just removed the tank end of the gas line and stuck it into the top of the open tank to suck the clean gas on top. I did have to drain the gas filter first but I got in without a tow.
Dave the safety officer is now pulling his hair out, [huh] lol, but something simple like that would work with a small bottle. [;)]
 
gcs said:
Several times I had problems with bad fuel while out working and couldn't get back in.
I just removed the tank end of the gas line and stuck it into the top of the open tank to suck the clean gas on top. I did have to drain the gas filter first but I got in without a tow.
Dave the safety officer is now pulling his hair out, [huh] lol, but something simple like that would work with a small bottle. [;)]
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Oh wow, hadn't thought of that. That would work.
 
I would simply add an appropriate tank fitting to your portable gas can with a pick up tub attached on the inside. The fittings have male threads, add a female threaded barb fitting inside along with a fender washer and appropriate sealing washer. Would have to locate it near the fill of the can obviously to be able to reach with a wrench inside. Dual duty!
 
What about this product?
http://trufuel50.com/how-to-buy/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=trufuel&utm_campaign=Branded%20-%202018


You can get 4 cycle or 2 cycle mix.
 
Phil Boyles said:
What about this product?
http://trufuel50.com/how-to-buy/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=trufuel&utm_campaign=Branded%20-%202018


You can get 4 cycle or 2 cycle mix.
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Yes, that is one of the fuel options. I can also get very high test racing fuel without ethanol locally.
 
Dave Diefenderfer said:
I would simply add an appropriate tank fitting to your portable gas can with a pick up tub attached on the inside. The fittings have male threads, add a female threaded barb fitting inside along with a fender washer and appropriate sealing washer. Would have to locate it near the fill of the can obviously to be able to reach with a wrench inside. Dual duty!
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I like that idea and I was thinking about doing that initially. This is for my 40 and I usually carry a 2 1/2 gallon spare and I'd like to get below that volume if I'm using one of the bottled non-ethanol gases. I'd like just a tiny bit of gas, like a quart, so I can keep it fresh. Alternatively, if I fill up race fuel from a pump (there is one near my work), that would work well. I just have to decide. I may go with one of those tiny (illegal) bottom drain motorcycle tanks as a proof of concept and see how it goes.
 
Our field crews use only the canned two stroke fuel for all their chainsaws.
They can buy a case of it, toss it in the truck and grab a bottle when needed.
No mixing, no separated fuel, no contamination, no ethanol. Chain saws always run.
 
Carl said:
Our field crews use only the canned two stroke fuel for all their chainsaws.
They can buy a case of it, toss it in the truck and grab a bottle when needed.
No mixing, no separated fuel, no contamination, no ethanol. Chain saws always run.
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Most of my stuff around the house has been pretty good with the ethanol fuel, but a few years ago I had the carbs on my outboard rebuilt when it started running a little funky. When I got the carbs done, the mechanic said the rubber in the carbs was swelled and this was impacting function (causing a float to stick?). My motor is starting to act the same way again and I'm thinking get the carbs done and then try to keep ethanol out of it for extended storage. I can't complain, since that is the only work I've had done on the motor (I've done the preventative stuff myself) and it is 15 years old and has probably 800 hours on it.
 
Every drop of gas that goes through my 40 honda is treated with the blue stabil for ethanol gas, that and a Racor water separator/fuel filter. Haven't had any problems with ethanol doing that. It's cheap insurance as I can not afford any downtime once I start working.
Try using your fuel up reasonably quick too, it doesn't take long for todays gas to go funky.
 
gcs said:
Every drop of gas that goes through my 40 honda is treated with the blue stabil for ethanol gas, that and a Racor water separator/fuel filter. Haven't had any problems with ethanol doing that. It's cheap insurance as I can not afford any downtime once I start working.
Try using your fuel up reasonably quick too, it doesn't take long for todays gas to go funky.
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I have a Racor and always treat fuel, I'm happy with the water part. It isn't water problems, but the ethanol.
 
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