Happy Easter and a question: what would be our favorite vehicle for fishing and hunting?

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Larry Eckart

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Guys (and Dani),
Happy Easter to you all. I inserted my Easter message to my congregation at the end of this post if you happen to be interested.

I’ve been thinking about vehicles for hunting and fishing and wondering to myself, if I had a choice and the money, what vehicle would I choose for my hunting and fishing escapades?

Most SUV’s as I see them are glorified station wagons to be used in much the same way as a mini van. In my mind, most SUV’s are not serious vehicles for the outdoors.

Whatever happened to the old style Jeep from the 1960’s, was it the Waggoneer, and vehicles like that which were designed for guys using the outdoors? Why aren’t the American car makers targeting the thousands of guys/gals who want a serious vehicle for the outdoors?

Earlier this year I saw a blog written by someone around the Outer Banks who said that he could always tell the guys that came from Raleigh and were not local to his area: they all drove Chevy Tahoes! He did not have good things to say about Tahoes or guys who drove them!

We of our website would have wide ranging needs and ideas about the “perfect vehicle.” God forbid, if money were no option, would we need as many vehicles as duck boats to follow our sport?

I was partial to my 1992 Chevy Blazer. This was the model that still had the tail gate that you could sit on while getting into your waders, eat lunch on or just sit and have a beer. It was small enough to fit into spaces and cut through logging tracks that bigger vehicles couldn’t go. I loved that vehicle. It pulled my 18’ Starcraft with no problem. One day, when I lifted up the hatch window and the whole window came off the truck into my hand because of rust, I knew it was time to put the old boy in the graveyard. But its replacement, a 1996 Blazer was a poor imitation of that 1992 model. No tail gate and a definite shift toward comfort as opposed to outdoor sport.

What do you consider your favorite all around hunting and fishing vehicle, whether you’ve owned it or not?

Again, Happy Easter to all. My Easter sermon to Island Lutheran Church in Hilton Head follows. Feel free to ignore it.

Larry


Joy to the World

He is risen! He is risen indeed! Hallelujah!

Merry Christmas everyone! (Reaction?)

It is this day, our Lord’s resurrection, that makes Christmas, merry, joyful and everything we hope Christmas to be. Christmas does not stand on its own. Our culture has it backwards when we accent Christmas and ignore Easter. Jesus was not born to give you Christmas. Jesus was born to give you Easter, to give you Good Friday and the Day of Resurrection so that the thumbprint of God upon your life might be one of joy and peace and hope for the future.

It is entirely appropriate today to link together Christmas and Easter as one because they are one. Christmas was God’s physical entry into the world in the baby Jesus. Good Friday and Easter are the reasons God sent Jesus. He came in the form of a baby. He came to become the man Jesus of Nazareth. He came to die on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. He came to rise again and so bear witness that neither sin nor death nor the devil win out in the end. So today we take the Christmas hymn and use it as our sermon subject: Joy to the world!

Joy. Joy is a wonderful word. Joy is a delightful experience. It is easy to get on board with joy at Christmas. After all, Jesus is a baby. Who can’t get excited about a baby? Who can’t catch the excitement of the children unwrapping presents? But joy rapidly disappears if we attach joy at Christmas to babies and unwrapping presents and a temporary time we call “the holidays.” Soon enough life encroaches on our joy.

We sit at the Christmas dinner table and smile, but behind our smile is anxiety. Grandpa isn’t well. We spent too much money on presents. Some crazy person in Paris drove down a sidewalk. Many injuries. Many deaths. All that is going on behind the Christmas smile.

It causes us to wonder: isn’t there some place where I can go hide? Let me take my Christmas joy and a cup of coffee and go hide from all the things that worry me, all the things that trouble me.

The reason we lose our joy, whether it is Christmas or Easter or June, is that we forget the true source of joy.

The angel said to the shepherds: I bring you good tidings of great joy. The angel said to Joseph, who served as the father of Jesus: You shall call him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.

The true source of joy is just that: sins forgiven. The true source of joy is not a holiday escape, not the presence of a baby or the temporary excitement of children be they unwrapping presents or gathering Easter eggs. The true source of joy is this: he will save his people from their sins.

The man who can teach us about the connection between Christmas joy and sins forgiven is Jesus’ disciple Peter.

Peter was in many ways, the leading man of the disciples. He was quick to speak and quick to act. It was Peter who first identified Jesus correctly: You are the Christ, the Messiah, the Son of the living God.

We would think that such a man, a man’s man who formerly made his living in the hard work of commercial fishing, we would think that such a man would always be dependable.

Probably you know that when pressure was applied to Peter, he caved in. After Jesus had been arrested, the risk for following Jesus escalated. Peter hung around the high priests court yard trying to do two things: to find out what would happen to Jesus and at the same time remain inconspicuous.

It is often true with us. We want to be associated with Jesus but at the same time remain inconspicuous so that we do not stand out as his disciple.

Peter was spotted. A servant girl, just a girl applied the pressure. You are one of his disciples. And Peter caved in. Three times he said, I am not. I do not know the man.

“I do not know the man.” Desertion doesn’t get much clearer than that.

We may never have gone that far publicly: “I don’t know you Jesus.” But then again maybe you have gone that far. Desertion is more often subtle. The opportunity arises to be identified as a follower of the Lord and we remain inconspicuous, silent, just blending in with the crowd.

When Peter realized what he had done, he left the courtyard and wept bitterly. The superficial joy of hanging around Jesus was now drowned out by guilt because he had deserted Jesus.

What to do when life crushes your joy? What to do when we publicly or privately desert Jesus? Peter could have walked around with a smile on his face, covering up, acting as if nothing ever happened. But joy isn’t a cover up. Joy isn’t a smile on the outside while inside we are dying.
The angel in the Christmas story told us plainly, clearly the true source of joy: he will save his people from their sins.

This is joy, sins forgiven. Left alone with his guilt, Peter may have thought his life was over. Peter may have thought his epitaph sealed: “I screwed up.” Yes you did Peter. And so has every person who ever lived.

Admitting responsibility, admitting fault, admitting guilt, admitting sin is the first step for joy restored.

Shortly after the resurrection, Jesus sought out Peter privately. In one of the beautiful scenes of the Bible, not only does Jesus forgive Peter. Jesus reinstated Peter as the leader of the disciples.

Sins admitted. Sins forgiven. Go in peace. Serve the Lord.

The same joy and forgiveness is there for you today. You don’t have to walk around with a smile on your face while inside your soul is empty, inside you feel like you’re dying.

Accept the truth: “I need my sins forgiven, Jesus. I need my sins forgiven.” It’s right there in the Gospel, the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Sins admitted. Sins forgiven. Go in peace. Serve the Lord. Joy to the world!

No more let sin and sorrow grow
Nor thorns infest the ground
He comes to make His blessings flow
Far as the curse is found
Far as the curse is found
Far as, far as, the curse is found.
v. 3 of "Joy to the World"
 
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Ahh, rust will surely do in the best of hunting vehicles.I think the best pure hunting And surf fishing vehicle I had was a 75 CJ5 I bought about 78. Drove that thing for 13 years hunting , surf fishing, camping . Things broke but were very easy to fix on my own cheaply. Finally that salty sand started doing a number on it eating thru wheel wells . Pre carpet days and you could easily wash the thing out with a garden hose as it had drains built into front floors. Damn that rag top was a cold bugger in the winter though! Far cry from the GMC Z71 extended cab I presently drive. Does ride like a caddy though which suits my ol back and butt just fine! So much power you don,t even know your pulling a 20' boat. Read your serman Larry and thought it was great. Should set your congregation to thinking on Easter sunday. Although I,m not a regular church goer these days I do go and enjoy our local bapist church,s easter sunrise service on Sinepuxent Bayfront.Very good pastor and getting to here the word and watching the world wake up with a bay view is truly enjoyable. Sometimes theres even an old quacker listening just off shore ! Happy Easter to You and Yours.
 
Thru the years I have had a number of old Hunting/Fishing vehicles. Many of them were 2 wheel drive. The one vehicle that was by far my favorite was a 1977 Dodge Van. Maybe part of it was just the time in my life when I owned it, but it was a very functional hunting truck for me. I could haul and store all my gear inside the van and lock it up. With 90 goose seasons and a field spread of decoys it was handy. It was also great for sliding my 10' canoe full of duck decoys completely inside and locking it up. I spent many nights on the bunk in the back on that old van. I still look at vans when I drive by the car lots and smile.
 
i think the old Jeeps were a bit overrated - although an Overlander or Scout (Jeep not IH ) would be a fun antique car to have

they were good off road - but dangerous to be in on the highway, too lightly built.

good sturdy built SUV's ( useless term but every thing has to be a TLA these days) are rare- as one friend once said - they are built for people who think off road driving is a gravel parking lot at the golf course [;)]

i went to the Toyota 4Runner in 2011 because it is still a body on frame construction, and its a good size for me- a short bed truck with an enclosed body

I like the dogs inside and have room enough to haul the equipment i need - if i had to haul anymore then i would think extended cab truck
 
Good morning - and Happy Easter, Larry~

I am enjoying reading this post. Hunting vehicles have lots in common with guns and boats - in that the needs are so often very personal.

My favorite - no question about it - is my current vehicle, a 2003 Honda Element.

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It was made pre-Great Recession, when auto companies were taking some risks and offering lots of creative vehicles.

I like my Element because:

1. It's interior is not carpeted and upholstered - lots of painted steel and durable plastic - like so many vehicles I grew up with. And, the "clamshell" rear hatch offers both a seat and a roof when donning waders, cleaning birds, etc.

2. It has LOTs of interior room. The rear seats can be folded up against the walls (like my Dad's 1967 Nissan Patrol - the first car I drove as a kid.) The seats can also be removed entirely. My 4th seat has been stored in the barn for years.

3. The AWD is exceptional. It has out-performed numerous conventional 4WDs off road. I'm usually in snow or mud in farm country, not rock-climbing or running on the ocean beach.

4. I have a hitch and I can tow up to 1500 pounds - which is ample for any of my duckboats.

5. My custom roof rack handles any canoe I own - or lumber or ladders, etc.

6. I average 23 MPG - same now at 300K as it was new.

7. It has a 5 speed manual. The shifter is mounted on the dash. It took me about 30 seconds to get used to the unconventional location - then I wondered why every shifter is not there. (I am not looking forward to self-driving cars.....)

8. I use the "moon roof" only when camping in it. If I slide the passenger seat forward, I have a nice flat floor. The moon roof tilted up lets condensation escape - even if it's raining outside.

9. The plastic quarter panels do not rust. Here in the salty Northeast, I still see lots of other brands pickups rusting after several years. My mechanics assure me there is no structural rust down below.

10. It is very easy for me to enter and exit. Some other PUs/SUV have so much rake to the windshield that some limbo moves are needed.

11. It is moderate in size. When I still worked and parking in a parking garage, there were very few shorter vehicles. It has a very short turning radius - which is very handy in the woods.

12. A smile came to my face the first time I sat in one - and it still does almost 15 years later. The only downside is that they were last manufactured in 2011. There is nothing on the market nowadays that would fill my needs as well.

13. Compared with some of the older classics, I value the airbags, great heater and AC; a radio I can actually hear and understand; and the other modern technology that makes most cars so reliable.

14. I prefer fully-covered vehicles to pickups. To keep stuff out of the weather and also secure.

Having said all that, my perfect hunting vehicle has always been the Land Rover - as it is sold in Europe. When I visit my daughter in Berlin, car watching is always a favorite pastime. I have always thought of the Element as a Poor Man's Land Rover.

All the best,

SJS



 
As usual you've got me thinking Steve. Great assessment of your vehicle. Mmm. I might have to start looking at Craig's list... "Just looking honey, honest, just looking!"

All the best to you,
Larry
 
My all around favorite vehicle for most anything are the early 2000s VW diesel station wagons. I can't pull a center console with it (although with the torque of the diesel it prob tows smaller boats just fine) and with the nice roof racks and accessories we have a available to us these days you can do quite a bit with it. Plus since it is fairly low it is easy to get stuff on top without killing yourself. Rear seats fold down completely flat to easily slide a deer into the back and the best part is that nobody has any idea you are hunting when it is parked on the side of the road. These older diesels get close to 50mpg so it is inexpensive to go on long road trips and lots of folks get 500,000 miles on those engines. I have to admit I didn't learn to drive a stick shift til I was 30 years old and feel like I missed out on 15 years of quality driving. My opinion is unless you live on the side of a mountain a lot of these AWD vehicles these days are pure gimmick and there is a lot you can do with a front wheel drive car especially with quality tires or snow tires. View attachment IMG_20170805_072635.jpg
 
A low roof line is a big help if your transporting canoes, kayaks or lumber on racks. Just reminding myself of that after recently picking up a canoe and transporting on racks on my trk. Those things just don,t seem to get lighter as you age!
 
A couple of times a year I need a vehicle that will haul muddy dogs and multiple dead animals, sometimes far too large to get inside a standard SUV. My best woods car was an early series manual transmission turquoise VW Rabbit with off-road winter treads on the front tires. Like Steve's Honda Element, there was not an ounce of carpeting inside the vehicle. For some odd reason I could exit the woods via a variety of compass bearings and always find the shiny blob of turquoise blue in any fall or winter woods scene. I contacted Terry Redlin, asking that he consider a painted scene depicting my VW, but he oddly declined.

I trapped beaver, raccoon, otter, 'rats, mink, fox and coyote out it. It even carried a 214lb dressed 4x5 I shot while calling and rattling near a beaver flooding on the last day of the season in 1983 out of the woods and home, draped across the hood at the base of the windshield! After hauling the deer the mile and a bit to the vehicle, I discovered he was too big and heavy get enough of him inside the hatch compartment to get him to stay while I tied the rest down. I ended-up removing the radio antenna and putting him up on the hood with his legs tied together and held tight by closing the rear doors on the knotted ends of each rope segment. I had to crawl in via the lift hatch to get to the driver's position. I am 6'-3". The deer had about a six inch wide stripe of hide showing the length of his back from being dragged out. I just kept praying that I would not run into a state police cruiser on the drive back to the house.

Other than blowing shocks occasionally, it was a great car. I went so far as to buy a second one for parts. I sold it in 1987 to my neighbor who used it similarly for three more years prior it being rear-ended in a snowstorm...how could you miss seeing that car?

Now, I want a suspended fly rod tube hung on the interior inside a lockable space. I don't trap anymore, so high mileage capability is nice but not a must. My current vehicle gets 19MPG on the highway, and 14MPG towing a large boat. Towing power and torque are must haves. I occasionally sleep in the vehicle, so a full size bed is nice, or at least an access cab's bed for wet muddy, bloody stuff, gear and dogs. Or decoys that were set in cow pastures, etc. I don't have a decoy trailer, so I need to use the interior capacity to employ cubic closest packing to get around a hundred silhouettes and full body decoys in and one or two field layout blinds. Consequently, I am on my third Toyota Tundra SR with a capper that has a lighted interior, removable front window to access the cab and clean both glass surfaces. Our gentile car is a Toyota 4-Runner; our third. I differ from RickL's assessment, by stating that Toyota gave up much of the off-road capability of the 4-Runner in the current body redesign-they diminished the entry and exit angles as well as interior 360 degree visibility with the new design. A mid-2000's 4-Runner with low mileage would be what I recommend for your use Larry, a truly versatile off-road SUV. The larger block six is enough to tow your Boston Whaler, so no real need to look for a V-8. I would look for an Unlimited model with leather seats that enable you to wash the mud and woods residue off, plus they are heated.

If you need higher tow capacity look around for an earlier model Suburban with a diesel that is old enough to enable conversion to burning cooking oil. The conversion runs about $1,000, and enables you to drive distance and tow for pennies on the mile. I don't know whether GM made a diesel Tahoe in those years. T. Boone Pickens had the right idea; unfortunately, he was swimming upstream against a very strong current, but I still have hopes to see natural gas powered trucks and SUVs.
 
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A Toyota 4 -Runner, and a Subaru 4WD Wagon, have gotten me many places other 4 wheel drives could not.


For Geezers the Subaru Forester works just fine. Has lots of room and loading on the roof is not a PITA. Plus they get very good ratings for safety and ranked high in Consumer Reports.


At present, have a 2006 Honda Pilot. While not a true "off road" vehicle, has really amazed me with it's power and 4 WD ability in mud, muck and snow.

I keep a plastic camo sled in the back, to hold wet gear, decoys, deer, game & fish, etc.. The sled is easy to load, unload and then clean out for the next time.

If Honda ever made a true "off road" vehicle. I believe all others would be in deep DO-DO.


Now it's time to go Fishing.[smile]
 
The next one, that is my favorite vehicle. I've had many that I have truly enjoyed. Had an old 1985 Honda Civic 1500S hatchback when I was younger. Loved that vehicle. That was my go to hunting vehicle for many years and it performed admirably.

Had a Dodge Dakota pick up that handled anything I threw at it. Sold it to get the Jeep I currently own. The Jeep can go through anything, and it has, I just don't like throwing everything into the back of the vehicle. Wet smelly hunting/fishing stuff, gas can's etc... I hear Ford is coming back with the Ranger later this year. May have to take a look at it as I prefer the mid size pick up over the full size as a full size quad cab won't fit in the garage. I really need a bed to haul stuff as I don't have the space to store a trailer.

Mark
 
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That's an interesting question and I guess really depends on what you're doing.

My biggest "issue" with what I do is I don't like wet stuff inside the cab. That said, I still have an SUV. I have an '07 FJ Cruiser that has no carpet (though I found out through flooding my truck it actually did have carpet padding underneath the vinyl flooring and with our heat it took no time at all for it to mildew...after the 2nd time flooding the interior of my truck, I switched out the carpet padding for the closed cell foam anti fatigue mats so that if I flooded it a 3rd time it wouldn't take nearly so long to dry out...the floor is actually quite easy to uninstall and reinstall) so I don't worry about the carpet getting wet and moldy/mildew smelling. It's easy enough to wipe out if it gets bloody or ooky. Has high ground clearance. One thing I thoroughly dislike about it is that the back seats don't fold completely flat like they did in the 1993 4Runner I had. There is a drop down from the folded seats to the back cargo area which makes sleeping (plus I have to sleep diagonally since it isn't long enough to accept my 5'5" height) in the truck a challenge.

My 4Runner had a nice flat bed with the seats folded down, but was carpeted throughout. Got wet, held sand horribly and was a major PITA. But it was a very comfortable SUV for sleeping in because I could stretch out the entire length and sleep fairly comfortably.

What I really like about both of those vehicles is that they are small bodied so I could get into places big trucks couldn't, I could turn around on narrow dirt roads without worrying about backing off the road.

For 1 person and 1 or 2 dogs, my FJ is just about perfect. With 2 people and 2 dogs though it is quite cramped for pretty much everything except short trips and if you take a lot of gear (like for duck hunting) it can be a real challenge getting everything loaded so that everyone has a place to sit without towing a trailer.

Someday I'd like a truck with a bed and a topper, but all the trucks these days are so monstrous they wouldn't be very good for most everywhere that I hunt in FL that requires jaunts into the woods. Out west, a big monstrous truck is a great thing. Plenty of room for people, dogs and gear. If I lived and hunted out west with wide open spaces, I'd get a big pickup.
 
My 1985 Nissan King Cab 4x4 went EVERYWHERE... it was great at not getting stuck.. in the mud.. Snow.. It was too light, and did get stuck a few times. I imagine that the Toyota Tacoma would behave similar. I currently have a 4 door Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 long box with the Cummins. I like everything about it. Capacity, Fuel economy, Cab space, and it has gotten me to and from every where that I have wanted to take it.

Working on a 79 Dodge Ramcharger right now. Perhaps that will be a more nimble vehicle.

A 1950's PowerWagon would be an nice choice too. I would also like a 2000-2005 Ford Excursion (with the 7.3 Powerstroke)... A nice hunting rig
 
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My first hardcore gunning partner always had International Scouts. [cool] (I'm sure the gray beards here will recall them)

He swore by em. We could launch his boat anywhere he could back it in. Most times where there was no ramp.

Turkey and deer seasons, he always had "Secret Spots". How we got back into them, and out always amazed me. I cannot recall our ever getting stuck.

It wasn't all that great on the highway, and the heater left something to be desired, but that vehicle could always crawl us outta anywhere.

I do believe that the cigarette lighter was the only luxury.
 
I had a 64 scout,little 4 banger geared so low you'd swear it could climb a wall. I don't think I ever went over 45 in it.
47 power wagon was another beast that could go over or through anything. I miss that one most
I still have a 77 fj40, arm strong steering and just canvass over your head.It doesn't leave duck camp.
 
I had a Volkswagen Rabbit in high school and college that got me into some pretty remote spots. It was my dad's car and was passed down to me when he upgraded to something newer.

Soon after I got my driver's license, on a family vacation in Northern Maine, I melted a hole through the plastic drivers seat when the bottle of "Muskol" insect repellent (100% DEET) in my pocket leaked and ate through the seat. That little car took me to some awfully remote spots in my bullet-proof college days.

Bring back the mid-sized truck with a low range 4WD and good ground clearance. I have hopes for the reworked Ford Ranger, but would really like to see Toyota bring back something in the small range.
 
Dani said:
That's an interesting question and I guess really depends on what you're doing.

My biggest "issue" with what I do is I don't like wet stuff inside the cab. That said, I still have an SUV. I have an '07 FJ Cruiser that has no carpet (though I found out through flooding my truck it actually did have carpet padding underneath the vinyl flooring and with our heat it took no time at all for it to mildew...after the 2nd time flooding the interior of my truck, I switched out the carpet padding for the closed cell foam anti fatigue mats so that if I flooded it a 3rd time it wouldn't take nearly so long to dry out...the floor is actually quite easy to uninstall and reinstall) so I don't worry about the carpet getting wet and moldy/mildew smelling. It's easy enough to wipe out if it gets bloody or ooky. Has high ground clearance. One thing I thoroughly dislike about it is that the back seats don't fold completely flat like they did in the 1993 4Runner I had. There is a drop down from the folded seats to the back cargo area which makes sleeping (plus I have to sleep diagonally since it isn't long enough to accept my 5'5" height) in the truck a challenge.

My 4Runner had a nice flat bed with the seats folded down, but was carpeted throughout. Got wet, held sand horribly and was a major PITA. But it was a very comfortable SUV for sleeping in because I could stretch out the entire length and sleep fairly comfortably.

What I really like about both of those vehicles is that they are small bodied so I could get into places big trucks couldn't, I could turn around on narrow dirt roads without worrying about backing off the road.

For 1 person and 1 or 2 dogs, my FJ is just about perfect. With 2 people and 2 dogs though it is quite cramped for pretty much everything except short trips and if you take a lot of gear (like for duck hunting) it can be a real challenge getting everything loaded so that everyone has a place to sit without towing a trailer.

Someday I'd like a truck with a bed and a topper, but all the trucks these days are so monstrous they wouldn't be very good for most everywhere that I hunt in FL that requires jaunts into the woods. Out west, a big monstrous truck is a great thing. Plenty of room for people, dogs and gear. If I lived and hunted out west with wide open spaces, I'd get a big pickup.
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Dani, take a gander at the original V-8 Access cab Tundras made off the Land Cruiser frame/drive train that run from 2000 to 2005/06. I had a 2003 that I sold a year after I bought my Conquest 235. I still regret selling that vehicle. These are a much smaller overall size and have identical torque to the current series Tundras due to use of the same ring gear set-up. They have a smaller block V-8 that will get you 20mpg at highway speeds with the right tire set. A far more car-like ride over your FJ and 4-Runner due to the longer wheel base and slightly wider stance. There actually were some V-6s produced with a stick shift and vinyl interior during their first two years of production. Great ride.

I met a Toyota design engineer at a scenic trail site at the Cut River gorge on the Lake Michigan side of the U.P. I was there to fish and he was there to sight-see. He apparently was the guy on the FJ cruiser design team that opposed the rear window height and spare tire set-up. He was driving an FJ prototype. Jeff, this pertains to your comments. He went on to tell me that Toyota was moving away from real off-road vehicle designs outside the TRD badged trucks. All their SUVs would be 'highly gentrified' with the truck lines remaining more 'utilitarian'.

I really like the aluminum F-150 series, but they layered so much "schlock" inside the cab that it is just overwhelming and largely a waste.
 
Vince Pagliaroli said:
My first hardcore gunning partner always had International Scouts. [cool] (I'm sure the gray beards here will recall them)

He swore by em. We could launch his boat anywhere he could back it in. Most times where there was no ramp.

Turkey and deer seasons, he always had "Secret Spots". How we got back into them, and out always amazed me. I cannot recall our ever getting stuck.

It wasn't all that great on the highway, and the heater left something to be desired, but that vehicle could always crawl us outta anywhere.

I do believe that the cigarette lighter was the only luxury.
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my first 4by was a 1974 IH Scout II - never got that stuck - and that was in the young and foolish days - vinyl bench seats - no carpets - lock out hubs very basic

when i was looking at it, I asked a Great Uncle who always had Internationals on the farm about them. He said "they are great trucks if you don't mind the rust" [smile]
 
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