Sandhill crane in NC?

benp

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I saw a single one on the edge of a pond between Salisbury Md and Easton last Sunday on my way home from the Ward Museum.
I wounder if its the same one, ha
Phil
 
Ben -

No doubt from what the photo shows. It IS a Sandhill Crane.

There are lesser (little brown) and greater.Sandhill's.

I do believe that their is a resident population in Fla.


In the 1990's Ohio stocked Sandhill Cranes. Within a few years they spread to western PA, and NY.

It makes good sense that they would migrate the short distance to NC. They can fly long distances with no problem. It's what they Do.

They are wonderful migratory birds, that once heard, and seen are never forgotten. They ARE voices of the past. When you hear them it is primal.

Their eyesight is well beyond any other migratory bird that we pursue.


They are a grand bird to hunt and to eat.

When wounded they can outrun humans and most dogs.

Their beak is deadly, as are their feet. Yet only one pellet from a shotgun can bring them down.

Get thee to SASK in late Sept. and see for yourself.

If you are so inclined, let this Geezer know, as I know a few spots where they love to be.


Best regards
VP











































, let this Geezer know as I do know a few good spot.
 
Multiple sightings were confirmed across the state of new Jersey last year. Certainly a rarity along the east coast but they do get lost from time to time and end up out here
 
Vince I would love to get up to Canada one day to hunt all the array of waterfowl and other birds, as well as other places like South Dakota and Louisiana.

I wish I saw him in person and could hear his call. They are some fascinating birds from pictures I've seen.

Another question is my brothers asked me if it would be legal to shoot him since I am the waterfowler of the family and they think I know everything on this stuff but I don't.

My answer was there is no regulations in NC for cranes so it seems a grey area that would be governed by federal regulations but I don't see where it says anything about a migratory bird outside it's established range being illegal or legal to shoot. I told them to call the warden.
So I've been through the NC regs and it doesn't mention cranes except from the federal regs of no baiting so does anyone know if it would be legal to take a crane in NC?
 

They may get blown off course, but never lost.

The ways of Nature/ the Almighty, take them where they go.

WE await what nature provides.


Where once were great marshes and habitat, are now urban civilization. A shadow of the past, but Nature always takes back what is her's.

Be surprised by what you see. That is why we are "out there".

Thankful, as all true waterfowlers are.

If there is a better way to spend ones life, I cannot imagine.
 
We have a season in TN now and have had counts in excess of 20,000 a couple times around Hiwassee Refuge in SE TN. But we see birds across the state. It's too early to expect them yet, but I hear them and see them flying over the house all winter long.
 
Ben

In my opinion they are not legal to hunt, and kill in any Atlantic Flyway state. Period.


A few years ago while hunting a local NWR. We were given a lecture by a very young officer, about NOT killing HER Sandhill Cranes that were on the refuge, and the price we would pay.

It upset me so much I walked out.

How *UCKIN stupid did she think we are?!!

NY has a waterfowl ID course that MUST be taken, or you do not hunt on many places. How many other states do that?

Waterfowl hunters get dragged thru the mud here, and pay to hunt what they already paid for. Yet deer hunters end the season for waterfowlers and walk right in no problem, no lectures.

BS!!!!!!
 
Ben,

I hunt a spot in NE Wisconsin where the cranes stage during migration. They're there in the thousands. The sight and sound as they leave to feed is prehistoric. Even if there are no ducks in the air the crane show is worth it. Good to eat according to a hunting buddy. Calls 'em rib eye of the sky. Not legal yet in Wisconsin but there's been chatter about a season. Very wary. If they fly over me without flaring I know I've got a good hide.
 
Good morning, Ben~


Great sighting of a truly spectacular bird! I sure hope you get to see and hear them someday soon.


I saw - actually heard - my first one here in New York back in 1977. At the time it was the 19th documented sighting in the state. I have since seen good numbers of them in Saskatchewan and Ontario.


As Vince mentioned, they now nest in NYS (western portions) and can be seen rarely otherwise. Three or 4 springs ago I heard - then saw - a pair fly right over the ridgeline of my shop. Evidently, a few can be expected each year in the Hudson Valley.


I know you will always remember the first one(s) you see.


All the best,


SJS

 
We have a few in NJ. I saw a trio of them on at least a dozen occasions this summer and early fall. Once you see their snakey silhouette in flight, and hear there Wierd Trill call, you won?t ever mistake them for anything else. Very neat
 
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Definitely a small population in NJ. 5 maybe 6 six years ago we saw one small flock. Now there are at least 30 that show up in the area I hunt.
 
I live about 30 miles due south of the Atlanta airport and every spring and fall I will hear their distinctive call. It may take me awhile but if I keep looking skyward the reward is to see them circling overhead. Usually groups of 20-30 birds. Depending on which direction they are migrating I will call fellow outdoors men and alert them for the spectacle.

They must be causing all kinds of havoc with air traffic control because with their altitude and direction they are going directly through the busiest airports landing/departure path!
 
They are polyphyletic, with five to six sub-species, two of which are non-migratory. The Florida sub-species is one of these and probably being negatively impacted by the invasive python population expansion, at minimum via egg predation, since they only lay two per clutch.

Greaters are less numerous and slowly spreading their range eastward in the continental U.S. I worked for a land surveying and engineering company summers to pay for college. We would often see pairs during spring in courtship displays while doing section breakdowns and large parcel surveys in southwestern lower Michigan. Now, it is common to hear them in the background on wetlands, or see them walking down the highway shoulders hunting insects and reptiles. In Fall, we see flocks frequently while goose hunting. This year we were down by Cooks in early September, on the west side of Indian Lake, hunting geese in a cut grain field. We were worked by more sandhills than geese that morning to the point where they built-up to a flock of around 500 in the lower leg of the L-shaped field we were hunting. The farmer called my hunting partner's cellphone to tell him he was in the wrong spot, another field of his to the south a little over a mile was "full of birds". We eventually pulled the spread three birds short of our limit of ten geese and drove down to check the field. It, too, was full of sandhills-again, hundreds of birds at the far end. We glassed it to see if we were missing any geese among them... Nope!

Having hunted them for over a decade, I can attest to them as excellent table fare- dense meat, sweeter than beef, with a pork-like texture and sweetness. Smoked with fruitwoods, they are excellent, too! They have an interesting habit of setting-up to make their final approach to the decoy spread, often coasting along motionless, growing in silhouette all the while, until they are at fifty to sixty yards out and then just drifting off to the downwind side to make another approach. They see VERY well! About forty percent of the birds shot have their feet down to land, with the remainder taken inside of forty yards as the pass over the spread. Around mid-morning small flocks and family groups of three birds will begin to trade around again in what we call the "looky-lou flight". This often gives you a better chance at getting birds committed to land as they look around for better pickings prior the daily shooting closure time.

I wish I had saved the crane hunting tutorial, with pics, that I posted to the Mighty Layout Boys website over a decade ago!

Deception Outdoors makes the best decoys, short of stuffers. I have hunted them with silo-socks with mixed success in NoDak. As the wind speed builds, we found we did better with fewer motion decoys and just a mix of the old Sport Plast full bodies and silhouettes. I modified a Tim Grounds cocabola long Honker call that never worked well as a goose call for me via adjusting and shaving the reed more to get it to break in the rolling "R" crane call. A standard Roy Gonia whistle can make the nasal "peent" of juveniles, which is the call we had our initial success with on sandhills on a foggy morning northwest of Max, at a couple of ponds we refer to as garbage ponds (a small nearby coulee is a mini-dump on the ranch for everthing from old bee hives to fence posts.) on a widgeon hunt nearly twenty years ago in NoDak. Deception Outdoors has a new acrylic crane call that is spot-on. Also, Knutson's is importing Sport Plast's sandhill full-body decoys in the new body styles. You should re-paint these, upon receipt, to a more effective color scheme. Dive Bomb makes a commercial silhouette out of campaign sign corrugated plastic sheet material. Their stakes are poor quality and the decoys can be overwhelmed by wind easily.
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Mark Allen with a limit from 2017 hunt in NoDak. Note the too bright raffia blind material. Often, if you check the work road exit point the combine operator will clean the machine prior exiting the field. There will be a very usable pile of straw to employ in camouflaging your field blind. Raffia will work, but is needs to be aged to the point where it doesn't shine in bright sunlight. Like geese, it is very difficult to get birds to work-in all the way in foggy conditions, so shift to BBB and pass shoot them as they break-out of the fog. Largest concentration of birds I have seen out there, we estimated at around 6,000. After have several thousand of them calling from about a half-hour prior legal shooting time until you pull the decoys, their call and calling resonates in your head for hours after the hunt is over. They are a truly fascinating bird!
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My sister-in-law ran into this pair outside the dollar store in Winterhaven, Fla., during a quick trip to pick-up paper plates for a cookout.
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Good morning, Rick~


Great information! It would be wonderful if their populations continued to grow here in eastern NY. Would be another great neighbor.


All the best,


SJS

 
Breeding cranes in Maine were first observed in 2000 and 2001 at a lake a few miles from my house. That lake now hosts quite a few pairs every season--enough that it's common to see them feeding in corn and hayfields for miles around all spring and summer. There are also reports of breeding from scattered locations elsewhere in southern and coastal Maine.

I worked on a lake just east of Jackson, Michigan for a few years in the 1990's that had a large breeding population. We'd commonly see flocks of dozens, and several local wetland fields were reliable spots to see their mating dance, which is really something.

Great birds. Based on the habitats they were using in Michigan and where they are commonly seen here in Maine, I'd say large lakes with extensive shallow marshy areas and nearby corn/hay/pasture land provide good habitat.
 
I've been seeing more and more of them here in Ohio. In fact my Wife and I saw a half dozen eating in a nearby picked cornfield just last week. I have been seeing small flocks flying high overhead more regularly too.

Jon
 
Jeff Reardon said:
Breeding cranes in Maine were first observed in 2000 and 2001 at a lake a few miles from my house. That lake now hosts quite a few pairs every season--enough that it's common to see them feeding in corn and hayfields for miles around all spring and summer. There are also reports of breeding from scattered locations elsewhere in southern and coastal Maine.

I worked on a lake just east of Jackson, Michigan for a few years in the 1990's that had a large breeding population. We'd commonly see flocks of dozens, and several local wetland fields were reliable spots to see their mating dance, which is really something.

Great birds. Based on the habitats they were using in Michigan and where they are commonly seen here in Maine, I'd say large lakes with extensive shallow marshy areas and nearby corn/hay/pasture land provide good habitat.


Jackson county in the Lower Peninsula and Chippewa county in the far eastern U.P., are the two sites under consideration by MDNR for an experimental season like Minnesota's, due to crop depredation losses.
 



Jackson county in the Lower Peninsula and Chippewa county in the far eastern U.P., are the two sites under consideration by MDNR for an experimental season like Minnesota's, due to crop depredation losses.[/quote]


RL

I recall a conversation with a farmer in Sask. who asked our crew to Please Hunt his farm. We were glad and thankful to oblige.

His crop was in swath, and being depleted and soiled daily by ducks, geese, and cranes. He was not happy.


What the birds did not eat, they pooped upon. Going up and down each swath. It really was a case of having to see it, to believe it.

I asked the farmer what happens to the lower grade pooped upon crop?

"Well hell, we send it to you and it's made into cereal!"

I laughed and first, and then didn't...
 
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