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Have my paint samples on order. I wonder if the person who mixes/ships the samples will catch on to the large amount of paint samples of the same four colors shipping around the country....

Steve, have you used the Behr paint over Jansens or Golden paint, or GAC700 or Jansens Cork Sealer?
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Jim~

I use it over oils, other acrylics, and gessoes (white and black). From my experience, acrylic almost always works well as a topcoat - but will never be as tough as oils.

All the best,

SS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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STEVE, what a great reference . I wanted to try my hand at painting 2 of my Al McCormick Humpbacks as hen mallards. I have them primed and ready for 2 years now. I wanted to put more then bayman style detail into them and paint individual feathers. Problem is I have no experience with that level of detail so I've been a little gunshy about starting. These decoys would still be used for gunning and I know they would see some rough duty and I also know that from any distance at all most detail is lost. Steve your repaints have wonderfully captured a nice compromise and I'm amazed not only how beautiful they are up close but how well they represent the live birds. Outstanding work and you've inspired me to take on the task with your methods and I hope the results for me are half as good. Pete
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beautiful! someday when i settle down and plant some roots I'd love to carve my own cork decoys.
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Ditto on the brush instructions - the birds look great!
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RT, RL et al~

I am glad you are finding this post helpful. The brushes are one more thing I had meant to include....

Here are the brushes I used on these birds:



There is nothing fancy here. The "flats" below - square-tipped brushes with fairly stiff bristles do the bulk of the work. They allow me to both pull and push paint around (unlike the finer-bristled brushes I use on mantel-piece birds that I finish in tube oils). Also, one "rule" is to use the largest brush whenever you can.



I use the "throw-away/chip" brush for sealing (spar varnish), priming (flat oils) and large areas of color. They are also good for stippling (which I only did a little bit on this rig - like the rump on the Hen Mallard). Especially for certain effects, these brushes can get more useful as they get worn and frayed.



The pointed "rounds" were used for the flecking/streaking on the heads of the Blacks and Hen Mallards. Here using the largest brush that will hold a point allows me to complete a head with just a couple of brush loads of paint. The smaller one was used only for the lower eyelids.



This filbert - with its finer bristles - was used only for the bills. These were topcoated with tube acrylics and have a low lustre. (I use many different filberts on my fancier birds.)



This older round has stiff and beat-up bristles - handy for stippling. I used it to add the highlights to the speculum on the Hen Mallards.



Gotta go! Our season opens in an hour-and-a-half.

All the best,

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Thanks - and good luck with the birds on the opener!
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Hi Steve - great post and very helpful, especially to those of us with little knowledge or experience refinishing decoys. I am looking forward to rehabbing some coastal magnums.

I just took a moment to view your website and now have it bookmarked. Love the story of the gunning box and I may try to get one at some point because it would provide a great hide when I can't gun the top of the tide for any reason.
Your website does a great job of showing the many ways you have been involved in many aspects of waterfowling and a great source of information and inspiration.

Well doe !
Dick
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Really neat tutorial. Thanks for sharing!

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Steve, you need you own cable TV show.....I would be glued to it
Capt.Mike Sanzone. F/V LAURA S.
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Steve, nice refurbish, BUT, why no hen blacks in the bunch?
george@runamuckdecoys.com
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Mr. Sanford I was wondering what size the pointed round brushes are? Very helpful post. Thanks for taking the time to share your skill and knowledge. Jeff
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Jeffery~

Sorry - I neglected to use the photo that showed the sizes - #4 and #6. Even larger rounds are handy - as long as they hold a nice point, they can hold more paint.

All the best,

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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George~

Short answer: Laziness. I MAY add the saddles on the bills to make half of them Hens - but most of my time is on building pilothouse right now. Both the decoys and the 'house should be delivered in less than 2 weeks. And, our Duck Season just opened on Saturday (with an exceptional hunt yesterday morning!).

All the best,

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Steve, LOVE this thread. Doesn't look you have to fix any tails. Good thing, I have replaced many and it gets old...Love the paint job on the hens. A quick question on painting over the dried varnish, do you rough the varnish up with sandpaper first?


John
Duckboats, decoys and double barrels!
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John~

I probably did - certainly if there were any sizable shiny patches of varnish. I usually hit it with 60 or 80 grit - because there's usually a few rough spots and "crumbs" - but it's just a few seconds per bird.

All the best,

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Steve,
Why do you add bondo rather that glue and cork dust?
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Bill~

I do not use Bondo, per se - which is a polyester product. I use the epoxy and microballoons because it sticks really well AND - just as important - it sands very easily. The cork mixed with epoxy is a bit tougher to sand. Either approach is serviceable.

You coming to the Duckboat Show?

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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as always, great job.
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Thank You for sharing that pictorial. Fantastic!
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As one who has carved a lot of birds in the past, I enjoyed this tutorial. The only question I have is on the mallard drakes flank, where you faded to white. If you look at a real greenhead, or a photo of one, you'll see that the white that separates the gray sides from the black rump is a distinct demarcation....a narrow white stripe that goes straight around the rump. A photo will illustrate what I mean.
Other than that one detail, you've done a fine job.
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Hi, Larry~

I just ran across your note from early April. I am glad you enjoyed my post.

I understand your point about the white on the drake's flanks - my pattern on the Bean's decoy is simply my compromise to accommodate the shape of the body - which is both a bit too large for the head and certainly too wide aft. As you can see from my other birds, I try to get that encircling aspect when the shape allows.

I carved these tip-ups circa 1980.




Note how the E. Allen and Herter's have a more life-life shape:









And some of my own:






Here are some other Bean's I re-painted last summer - tried to stretch the white a bit more astern.





Finally - I hope you're still carving!

All the best,

SJS

Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Steve,
I particularly like the reddish breasts on your hens in the last picture. A large number of suzies in my neck of the woods exhibit this coloration, but I seldom see it on decoys. Good eye, there!!!!!!
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Steve,

I know you get lots of questions on this forum, so I apologize for adding one more, and did make a good faith search before posting this question, but, despite that, it seemed wise to ask is the list below still the recommended paint schedule for black duck decoys? If so, is one of those colors the choice for the body color, or is Lou's oil base FME the only way to go for that part of the bird? Thanks for any help.

JimG wrote:
Before hopping into your truck and heading to Home Depot for the sample size jars of paint, DON'T

According to the HD website, available via internet only

go to the search box and type in Behr Ultra paint samples, followed by the colors in the tutorial

OK.... in case you haven't written them down yet, Mocha Accent, Black Suede, Fedora, Ashwood

AND the best part, $1.94 per jar until 10/19. Are you kidding me? Including shipping. Are you kidding me? Delivered to your door.

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Steve O: Dec 5, 2018, 11:30 AM
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Steve, you may check his website, there maybe some updates, but I have this from my files that Steve compiled at some point:

Dave Diefenderfer
Manassas, VA

"Once you set out to build a boat, throw away your square. And if you work on her after she's launched, throw away your level." author unknown