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I added a video,,,,,,,,,,, Fish decoy works!
Put my red/white decoy to the test. PASSED!!
24 3/4 inches She hit my hand carved decoy couple times before I was able to get my spear into her.

and the video; https://youtu.be/DSuBpTRBlYc or hot link spear video

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging

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Huntindave McCann: Jan 14, 2019, 9:15 AM
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That is really neat. Nice job Dave.

Tom
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I think you're ready for Lake Winnebago sturgeon. You might need a bigger spear!!


Kyle Jenkins, right, with the sturgeon he
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Good deal Dave!!
Fresh pike for dinner!!


Carl
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AWESOME!!!
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Pretty cool Dave
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Passed with flying colors! (red& white)

Very cool, Dave!


MLBob

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....Here's to Joe Wooster, who made me realize that the useful could and should be beautiful; and who firmly believed that decoy carvers were the last free men in America.

https://www.facebook.com/KOOIdecoy?ref=hl

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Pretty cool Dave, congrats.


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That is great Dave, really cool. Thanks for giving us some glimpses of the process.
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As an aside, we watched ?the frozen chosen? (sturgeon spearing documentary, available amazon prime) last night. Hard not to get interested in it given what is involved.

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tod osier: Jan 12, 2019, 6:48 AM
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That's really great Dave. Curious how long you waited to get that fish and if you're going to try for a bigger one. Do you work the decoy?
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Guys,
Thanks for all the comments.

To answer a couple questions; I was a fun experience and I'm looking forward to a next time. My two decoys worked,,, OK,,, room for improvement. I'll make the next ones with a slimmer profile. Overall tho, I was pleased with my efforts.

Much like duck hunting, sometimes the fish would show up real regular and other times it was quite a matter of time between sightings. Waiting for something to show up and only having a limited sight window, can be challenging.

After getting all set up, the decoy is lowered 2-3 feet below the ice. Pulling the string causes the decoy to "swim" in a lazy 3 foot diameter circle. I would swim it a bit for several revolutions then let it sit still. Then I'd just sit and wait for a couple minutes. You never knew if there was a Pike just out of your sight window, just sitting there eyeballing the bait. I spooked a couple of fish like that, when I jerk the string aggressively (not know a fish was there) and the decoy would shoot out in a wide circle. I soon learned to give the decoy just a gentle tug to trigger a reaction, before swimming it a bit more aggressively to "call" in any nearby Pike.

Most of the time, when a Pike would come in, he would come charging in, slam the decoy and turn away. Then come back and do one of two things; either come in close and study it or come in and clamp his jaws down on it. Hopefully when he did (either action) he would be in a position that enabled me to drop/throw the spear into his back, just behind the gill plates. I did completely miss a couple throws but the majority of the time I connected right where I was supposed to.

Due the spearing regulations most of my fish had to be under 22 inches in length with only one fish being between 22 and 26 inches and one fish could be over 26 inches in length. I managed to capture a video of spearing one of the shorter fishes that was 19 inches in length.

Spearing video or https://youtu.be/DSuBpTRBlYc (same video)

Now it's off to the work bench to carve up a couple new decoys. Just what I needed; another new hobby. Crazy


Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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Very cool. Congrats. I didn't even know that spearfishing was legal anymore. lol
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AWESOME! But man, I be afraid of falling into into that hole!

I watched on my phone, (read, small screen), that looked like a Northern? I remember as a kid, I had an uncle who used to catch them in Canasa all the time. I also remember watching him filet them, where he stood the fish up, and started at the back somehow first. AND I also remember them as being very tasty!

Thanks for sharing! That is so cool!

Jon

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Thanks for adding the video, Dave . Really neat to see the spear in use.

...And thanks for not overdubbing any dramatic heavy metal tune as an intro w00tw00tw00t..... although the theme from Jaws might have been cool.Wink


MLBob

"Art is like an ill-trained Labrador retriever that drags you out into traffic." (Annie Dillard)

....Here's to Joe Wooster, who made me realize that the useful could and should be beautiful; and who firmly believed that decoy carvers were the last free men in America.

https://www.facebook.com/KOOIdecoy?ref=hl

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Thanks for the video Dave, the first I've seen. That looks like fun, I wish it was legal here. As an aside, isn't it legal to shoot them in WI? There's a new challenge-suck them into the "rig" with the decoy, then "take 'em". Wink
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Dave, the spearing is mighty fascinating. Do you think you get more interest from fish doing it that way vs more traditional ice fishing?
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Dani wrote:
Dave, the spearing is mighty fascinating. Do you think you get more interest from fish doing it that way vs more traditional ice fishing?


Probably the same amount of "interest". The big difference is even if they don't actually grab the lure/decoy, on can still decide to spear or not to spear each individual fish. When angling with a tip up or bobber (best comparison to hanging a decoy in the water) you are still hoping the fish actually bites and gets hooked.

The down side there is no spear and release, only "see" and release, by choosing not to throw the spear. Much more like hunting rather than fishing.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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If your river bottom is soft, pour one or two bags of dried white beans in the spearing hole to provide you with some background contrast to pick fish up that sneak in. Pike are ambush predators, using that massive surface area gained by close location of their caudal, dorsal and anal fin surface area to burst toward their prey; one of a few fish that actually possess binocular vision and thus possess the ability to judge distance. Hard bottoms and far deeper (noticed that your spear handle was still out of the water on your throw in the video), you can buy yourself some added response seconds by pegging the spear tip into the ice in the wall of the spearing hole and leaning the handle across your shoulder, ready for the "throw". You will get no ice build-up on the tines as well as not have to adjust for the refraction effect when you first position the spear. White landscape gravel scattered around the hole will sink well for deeper fishing. By laying your spear shaft across your non-throwing hand's palm prior the drop, you can guide it more steadily into the fish; most of these suggestions are depicted in that 906 Outdoors video from the Michigan Dark House Association member.

As you go deeper, the ambient currents may begin to impact the spear's head surface area on your shots...common effect on lazer-cut spears because of the surface area to weight ratio.
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That's really cool Dave. I hadn't ever heard of this form of fishing before you posted your decoys and video. Does it work as well when the water can't be walked upon? Do people spear during the summer?
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RL,
Thanks for your input. This was the very first fish I speared and I'm already making some changes. I played with my seating options, spear resting position and just how the decoy was suspended.

I did in fact begin resting the shaft on my shoulder with the points stuck on the far side of the hole. I have the spear retrieval paracord hanging in loose loops stuffed between the roof support rods and the canvas. That has worked great to keep to cord out of the way yet allow it to feed out smoothly as needed. Not sure I'm entirely comfortable with the business end of the spear across the hole. I'm considering a bracket which would engage the spear at the upper end of the head where the tines all meet. Said bracket would be positioned on my side of the hole and suspend the spear head just below the waters surface. The spear would release towards the center of the hole, with just a slight movement away from the bracket. Still working this over in my head before making a prototype.

I hadn't thought about using beans or gravel. Right now I'm dropping egg shells and it is working quite well. I moved once and the bottom had medium short weed growth, which allowed the egg shells to filter down among the weeds, making the shells in effective. Any suggestions to add contrast or lighten up in this scenario or is it better to shift location?

Unless I expand to new locations, I don't expect to be spearing in anything over 8 to 10 foot of water. The lake I am on ( my friend has property there) is stained and visibility is limited even under the best conditions. Shallow water is one of the reasons I made the decisions I did when building my spear.

Right now I am in the process of modifying how I attach my decoy string to the hub shelter roof support and allow for adjustment in the horizontal plane. Got it figured out just need to build it. I was using a rattle reel with a spring clamp which hung straight down from the hub support rod. No way to adjust the position with out moving the shelter for position. Going to mount the rattle reel using something other than the spring clamp.

My only wish now, is that this is something I could do in my own home state.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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Dani wrote:
That's really cool Dave. I hadn't ever heard of this form of fishing before you posted your decoys and video. Does it work as well when the water can't be walked upon? Do people spear during the summer?



Yes and no. Sly In Minnesota the Pike spearing season runs from November to February, which means most folks do this thru the ice. Rough fish have different season dates in Minnesota.

In Iowa, only rough fish only can be speared (or shot with a bow and arrow). My experiences with this, have always been in open water during the warmer months, especially in the spring. As a youth, I would shoot carp with my bow, then trade them with the folks fishing from the banks, for adult beverages. Whistle

Some folks will spear carp here from a boat in open water during the winter. Spearing open water during the winter is good because all the sediment settles out of the water in the winter months when the ground is frozen. Smoked carp can be good and I've made several batches back in the day.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging

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Huntindave McCann: Jan 15, 2019, 6:04 AM
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Cool video Dave. That looks like fun! The decoys swims excellent. I seen your comments about spearing rough fish here in IA. That was always a big part of winter fun during my youth. Congrats on all of the hand made items coming together and resulting in success.
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Tod, let me know when you want to go, friends and neighbor take their vacation to go sit in a shanty staring down a hole for days on end. Neighbor has speared one since I have know him, one friend has been going the last 5 plus years, never thrown the spear.
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For those of you who "lust" for whitefish-12 fish per outing is the limit. Fish are "in" to spawn usually from November into early December.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKrZb9gqgY