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Setting Decoy Eyes...a quick tutorial

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Setting Decoy Eyes...a quick tutorial
Drill a clean hole. I use a brad bit and start with the drill in reverse to cut the perimeter




Use two part epoxy to set the eye




It hardens quick and the placement of the eye isn't confused by trying to fill at the same time




Fill with latex sandable putty. It's easy to shape by adding some water to smooth




Start at the center of the eye and sooth the filler outward in all directions




Use a tool or you fingernail to clean filler off the eye and shape the perimeter. I use my nail and push out from the center




Sand the filler staying away from the eye. If sandpaper touches the eye it will scratch instantly




Seal the decoy and cover the eye and filler. The varnish on the glass will be removed with base coat paint later


-Geoff Vine

http://www.GVineDecoys.com
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Thanks Geoff for making the difficult task of mounting eyes so much more understandable for us newer carvers. I appreciate it!

Mike


Mike in Florida panhandle... NOWHERE near your spot
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Very, very nice. Really beautiful work, almost too perfect for me :).

Thanks for sharing, it is just amazing to see.

T
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I would like a sanding tutorial please. :)
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Jeff~

Thanks for a very well-done instructional. I use the same filler. If I'm putting in eyelids, I shape them with the paintbrush while wet.

And, Oh, I only scratch the eyes with my sandpaper about 50 % 0f the time....

All the best,

SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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I want a tutorial on head carving...particularly cutting in the bill so perfectly. If you are going to be at the Worlds...I'll shoot it and write it up! ;)
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boykinsbuddy
...just a drop of water in an endless sea
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Geoff:
Great tutorial! Do you do anything special for the proper alignment in the front view? In other words, do the eyes focus in on the end of the bill?

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Terry Desilets: Mar 3, 2013, 5:54 PM
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You guys are welcome. Thanks for the responses.

Terry - If you look at the bottom photo...you'll find that the eye is looking right at you!

I set them so they are parallel with the surface of the head in that area. They aren't twisted in the opening, up, down, or forward.
-Geoff Vine

http://www.GVineDecoys.com
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 Capt Fred Muhs used powder water putty and yellow carpenters glue mixed and inserted the eye, The excess was used to make eye lids. With a finepoint brush you could under cut the eye lids. Keep adding water to the brush to keep workable. No sanding, no scratches.
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Geoff, Thanks for your help on setting decoy eyes.
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Geoff:
Great tutorial! Do you do anything special for the proper alignment in the front view? In other words, do the eyes focus in on the end of the bill?



Terry, if the birds are so close they can see what direction the focus of the decoy's eyes are, I think it is too late, because if you shoot now you will likely hit your decoys!

Geoff, great tutorial...I use basically the same methods, except somehow I always manage to make a much bigger mess...



"A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."


A. Pope
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Chuck:
Not piling on, but if it doesn't matter how they're set, then why put them in? In fact, why sand your decoys? There are a lot of things we can delete because "the birds don't see it!", but then many decoys also have to look good in hand. I would venture to guess that the majority of Geoff's decoys do not hit the water. Yes, I think it matters how the eyes are set. Geoff makes it look good, you would notice if they were uneven.


Terry Desilets
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Anbar Iraq
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geoff, dude, great stuff man. thanks for taking the time!

justin
HRCH Gauge
HRCH Trapper
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Terry, you're right on many levels, but mostly since Hank jumped on my favorite "tease Geoff about sanding" topic, I figured I'd hastle you instead. Actually I was thinking (hoping) that Geoff could post a front view of the finished head to see the eyes from that perspective.

Meanwhile, tomorrow is garbage day, I think I'll haul that cork out to the curb, and rummage through the neighbors' recycling cans for some more chlorox bottles...



"A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."


A. Pope
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I'm on my way now..........if you hear strange noises........... it's raccoons.....
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This sounds like something that needs to be discussed, in detail, in the wee hours of the morning, in Strongsville. Terry...will I be seeing you soon?
-Geoff Vine

http://www.GVineDecoys.com
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Shall I bring a refuse sample?



"A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."


A. Pope
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no gargbage...no racoons. I accept beer and cash.
-Geoff Vine

http://www.GVineDecoys.com
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Chuck: I would certainly be beholden to you if you did. Maybe we could work it out as an appearance fee or something? I don't do these things for free.....I am, after-all......a......Capitalist!
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Geoff:
I am off the cider this year! I am bringing the nectar of the gods.....Canadian beer. We will be there around noon, in case you and Judi want to reconnect. Dinner Friday evening?


Terry Desilets
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Proud Father of a Marine

IN REMEMBRANCE OF MY NEPHEW:
Cpl. Ben Desilets - USMC
KIA 22 May 2007
Anbar Iraq
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VERY GOOD class on setting eyes thanks
Co-Author of the new book, Pte. Mouillee Shooting Club, History, Decoys, Nate Quillin, Punt Guns, Spring Hunting, Live Pigeon Shooting, and Live Decoys
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 Capt Fred Muhs used water putty mixed with white glue. Fill the hole with paste and use excess to make eye lids and fill chips. Shape with brush and water.