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What's on your WORK BENCH ? - OCTOBER 2020
Good morning, All~


I'm still spending my available time on the Great South Bay Scooter - and a bunch of "long-handled implements in need of Turk's Heads"....


But George is still creating waterfowl facsimiles....


From the Bench of George Williams - another Ringed Teal:






All the best,


SJS





Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Beautiful fall day. Had a little frost this morning, but the temp is sitting at 57 degrees this afternoon.

I did a little wood turning today. Well actually, I started turning this bowl back in April of this year.


When first put on the lathe, the log of Green Ash weighed 22 lbs.





From there, I rough turned a basic bowl shape leaving the walls about 7/8 inch thick. The bowl at that point in time was very "green" and full of moisture. "Rough turning" had reduced the 22 lb. weight of the log down to 1025 grams or about 2.26 lbs. The journey has begun.


Over the next 5 months the rough turned bowl sat packed in shavings and sealed in a paper sack. When I took it out of the sack, it had dried down to a weight of 758 grams or about 1.67 lbs. It also, as expected, warped as it dried. If you look closely you can see where I penciled concentric circles on the eccentric face of the warped bowl blank. This is the reason for leaving extra stock during the drying process.







Today it was time to true up the warped blank and expose what was still hidden below the rough surface












That is all that is left of the log, all 421 grams of it, just under a pound (.928 lb)
Almost forgot, the bowl measures 9 1/2" diameter and 3 5/8" deep.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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Nice Ring Teal George
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Flying landing Shovelers



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I never know which is worse: the sorrow when you hit the bird, or the shame when you miss.
http://www.hillmandecoys.com
Mullica Hill NJ
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Nice Dave. I wondered how long you have to let the green wood dry, interesting.
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Jode, those are cool. They'll look awesome hanging from the rafters.
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SJ Fairbank wrote:
Nice Dave. I wondered how long you have to let the green wood dry, interesting.


All depends on the thickness of the material. Left in a log form, probably about 4-5 years. Rough turned greatly reduces that time, but does allow the rough blank to warp and possibly crack.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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Huntindave McCann wrote:
SJ Fairbank wrote:
Nice Dave. I wondered how long you have to let the green wood dry, interesting.



All depends on the thickness of the material. Left in a log form, probably about 4-5 years. Rough turned greatly reduces that time, but does allow the rough blank to warp and possibly crack.


In four-five years I'd forget what it was for! How much does kiln dried stock reduce the drying time? Or is drying time eliminated?
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SJ Fairbank wrote:
Huntindave McCann wrote:
SJ Fairbank wrote:
Nice Dave. I wondered how long you have to let the green wood dry, interesting.



All depends on the thickness of the material. Left in a log form, probably about 4-5 years. Rough turned greatly reduces that time, but does allow the rough blank to warp and possibly crack.



In four-five years I'd forget what it was for! How much does kiln dried stock reduce the drying time? Or is drying time eliminated?


Kiln dying a raw blank would eliminate all drying. Also eliminates turning a bowl twice. Once for rough turn, followed by drying, then final finish turn.

I have a stack of "half logs" in my shed. This was early spring and I have added to it over the summer. Not an ideal situation as the stack needs better airflow than what my 3 sided shed provides. The ends have been sealed with paraffin.





Half of this effort went to waste, because the crack in the crotch went too deep to be usable.


Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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Thanks, Bomber. Hope that the group of three will produce a few, IF we can get down there next June. God willing........AngelicWink
george@runamuckdecoys.com
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SJ Fairbank wrote:
Jode, those are cool. They'll look awesome hanging from the rafters.

Thanks SJ. That's exactly where they are going!

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I never know which is worse: the sorrow when you hit the bird, or the shame when you miss.
http://www.hillmandecoys.com
Mullica Hill NJ
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My woodie rig for this year



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I have more



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Funky, animated bodies, Patrick!
george@runamuckdecoys.com
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OK Patrick.

Dems some Bad Ass Acorn Eaters. Cool


Check em out on da water.

Like the birds see em, at a distance, not from the hunters view point.

IF the flat paint holds water, and throws a glare (as usual), put a sheen on em.

Then they ARE slicker than $hit down a tin horn, hard working Decoys.


Jim S. knew the TRUTH.


my 2 cents
VP











"Art does not reproduce what is visible - but makes things visible." ~ Paul Klee, artist, 1920
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Vince
Thanks that's a dead flat oil based varnish on them.
I have no idea if it will absorb water or not. But you do lose some of the paint brilliance.
Who's Jim S??

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OK Patrick.

Dems some Bad Ass Acorn Eaters. Cool


Check em out on da water.

Like the birds see em, at a distance, not from the hunters view point.

IF the flat paint holds water, and throws a glare (as usual), put a sheen on em.

Then they ARE slicker than $hit down a tin horn, hard working Decoys.


Jim S. knew the TRUTH.


my 2 cents
VP[/quote]
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George
I'm trying! And having fun doing it.


quote george w]Funky, animated bodies, Patrick![/quote]
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I've only put in a SMALL amount of time at the bench so far....
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Patrick,

As I've stated before. I bought into the dead flat paint on gunning decoys. Until I carved a rig to use in Sask. with flat oil paint finish.

Long story short, as the morning progressed birds flared. I took a long walk up hills above the marsh we were hunting, and saw the water on the decoys was throwing a very noticeable glare.

Water throws a glare much like a mirror & glass, (refraction, etc.) that we have all seen while in the outdoors.


Maybe not a great example, but when ya see a well waxed vehicle, the paint does not throw a glare. The windshield (much like water) at angles, does throw one heck of a glare, that does draw your attention, and not for the better.

I found that flat surface paint held water for a very longtime. Especially if ya toss decoys (that's why the keel to help self right) even on calm days.

Decoys with a sheen shed water very well ASAP, and have a much less glare.

Seeing it with my own eyes, made me a believer.

How you get the sheen on your decoys is your preference, as they are your creations.



Jim S., is the late Jim Schmiedlin, 1945 - 2015.

A man of keen observation, detail, functionality, and intended purpose.

If one studies his decoys. You will note that his gunning decoys, have much more sheen than his decorative decoys. When in many cases it is the opposite.

That is the AH - HAA moment of truth.

As a Navy man he knew water, glare, and gunning conditions better than most.

Everything he did he thought through, from small details, to the big picture.


If you go to the facebook page dedicated to him, you will see some of his Wood Ducks... Killers.



Your decoys have style & quality that makes them standout. Hold on to that as long as ya can.


Best regards
Vince











"Art does not reproduce what is visible - but makes things visible." ~ Paul Klee, artist, 1920
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Vince
So I should Apply Johnson paste wax?
I looked up Jim S very nice decoys
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Patrick,

I have no experience with Johnson paste wax, so I will not advise.

Have experience with Finish Feeder (no longer made), or just a bit of Bri Wax. Apply using proper gloves.


Also some oil paint can produce a fine sheen, from the heat of your hands, and a linen, or soft canvas rag.

Some of the old time carvers used warm bare hands, and the oil on their skin.

Others used oil, or wax on their warm hands (no cloth). This I WOULD NOT advise unless the product is safe for use on bare hands.


I do believe that Jode Hillman uses mineral oil. You can ask him.


One thing that I do advise. That you allow the oil paint to cure very well before applying any wax, oil, etc. I found that out the hard way... Unsure


When you get the finish like ya want it, the brush strokes & paint will POP! You gonna like it, and so will the birds.


Ya got a good journey going. Enjoy the ride, bumps, and all.


VP











"Art does not reproduce what is visible - but makes things visible." ~ Paul Klee, artist, 1920
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Hey Paisan,
Apparently, the Goleden Matte has a bit of sheen, because we have not had a flaring problem, wet or dry. Interesting info on the oil on one's skin leaving a bit, though. Perhaps, the more us4e, the more that happens?
As a personal note--I HAVe used SMALL amounts of JW, without buffing, on parts of decoys that normally ice and produce doilies when it is quite cold, with pretty good results, especially on low head stuff. BE JUDICIOUS
george@runamuckdecoys.com

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george w: Oct 8, 2020, 11:35 AM
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Four more had their first float last night, as always I'm excited to make the next batch even better. Been a good first two weeks of the season and am loving hunting over my own rig. Have another out of dimensional lumber getting closer as well as a few bigger workbench projects on the go.






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Mark,
The only critics you have to please are yourself and the ones flying into your spread. Sounds like you are good on both counts.

Take care, Huntindave McCann Smile SHELL ROCK IA. ,,,,,, "As sailors grow older, the wiser ones move to smaller boats." Thomas Firth Jones, Multihull Voyaging
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How about a light buff with steel wool? Try a patch...