I tore into the boat today and did most is the demo. I have owned this boat since 1984 and will be the second deck. It's lived partially covered most of the off season but stayed out a bit too long last season.
I am thinking about redesigning the deck and combing and possibly build a fixed spray shield. It will add height to the profile . I'm thinking in the style of a Banks boat or a Core sound type boat. Any thoughts?

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My friend added a 5 inch high fiberglass ring around the two man boat he used to have and I hated it. The boat was big enough without adding the height and sharp angle. It stood out a lot on calmer days.
South Jersey

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I added the foam some years ago and it was a bugger to get out because it was stuck to the deck where the wood was still good . I don't know if i will put any back. It may have trapped water in there.
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I'm thinking of strip planking the deck as i have a good supply of clear red cedar on hand and i can shape it to the design of the combing better than ply. If i go that route.
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Good progress!

Bob

Oh this looks like it's going to be a really satisfying restoration. I'd like to feature it on the duckboatsdotnet Instagram account if you are okay with that. Let me know.

Eric

Yes go ahead no prob.
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More demo today. Pulled all sorts of fasteners out of the boat. I made templates of all the pars and took measurements of everything I could think of. It will help me but I don't know if it will help anybody else but at least i have them. The framing is standard 2x6 construction lumber and the bottom is 3/4 ply. I'm guessing the tub is 1/2 inch ply.Nothing is straight but it's mostly solid. On these the deck is fastened directly to the bottom with nails and screws and fiberglass was applied to that edge. I think I will install a chime log and give the future fasteners more bite
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Good morning, Bob~


I'll be following this project closely!


I have long been a devotee of "fixed" spray shields up around the head of the gunner on layout boats. The advantages of hiding "swivel heads" and keeping the wind out pay off irrespective of weather and sea conditions. I plan to put one on my next Sneakbox restoration.



Here is a canvas one ny Benjamin Hallock Great South Bay Scooter- paired with a canvas 'lap cover" for more hide and warmth whilst gunning.







And here is a rigid 'glass one a Dodge & Krowl GSB Scooter.






Here is the hide. The coaming is low - maybe 1-3/4 inches above the deck - so the view to the rig is unimpeded.







The lap cover rolls onto the after deck when not needed.






I have never gunned from a Great Lakes-style boat - with the adjustable spray curtain/skirt. Maybe a combination of a rigid cowling up forward and a canvas skirt would meet your needs.


I use a separate canvas cockpit when not in use.






All the best!


SJS





Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com

Thanks for the photos Steve. That gives me good reference.I am waiting to see when I have it planked up to make the call.
Today I started strip planking the topsides. I had a bunch of clear red cedar that I used instead of normal plywood. I scrounged this from an old sauna being torn down. It was only 7 feet long but I just butt joined it at the framing . I ripped the tounge and groove off first then cut the boards into strips 1 inch wide . it handled the curve of the deck well . Used tite bond 3 to glue the edges and sunk a couple of nails into the edge locking all the planks together and where the planks intersected the framing.I ran everything long and I will go back and trim up later..
I closed up the cockpit by sistering a full deck curved frame at the first knee. I also was able to give myself an inch more boot space.
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I have been working on the cockpit and built up the combing 3 inches higher than before. I used the stripper kayak method of gluing the little strips in a vertical fashion to make the combing curve then glassed over for strength. I then got the steamer going and bent ash around the whole thing. I broke a bunch. Never happened that bad before. The project is proceeding .
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The combing looks rough in the pic but everything faired out OK.
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Spent some time with the belt sander today. I went in a diagonal direction using 36 grit belt. Fairly aggressive . Returned the other direction in a diagonal fashion then another final pass with the grain. Worked well. I ran my hand over the surface and marked the low spots . I went over those with epoxy resin and then mixed up some cabosil thickens epoxy and filled those spots.
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Beautiful! Might end up being the best looking Kalash of all time.

Eric

I think he has succeeded there already! I really am enjoying watching the progress.

Knocked the hard edges off the deck and bottom joint. I don't know if that's the chine on this type of boat but you get the idea. That's all that was done on the original build. Most likely polyester resin. Working outside,gust of wind put a lot of crap in my wet layup. It will sand off. Need to order some supplies and rain in the forecast so i'll lay off for a bit. Lots of decoys to repaint.
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Eric's right!

Nice Bob! You doing the work at your cabin or at the house?
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I'm doing the work at home. I've got enough to keep me busy at the cabin. I'm in MN now for 10 days.
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Good morning, Bob~


Now that sounds like a familiar life-style..... Good days are usually productive days.



Susan and I will be headed up to our camp (cabin) on Champlain next week - with a trailer full of lumber and a bunch of tools.


All the best,


SJS

Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com

This makes me want to pick up a project boat, which I really don?t need to do.LOL.

Back to the layout after a long layoff. Before i left for MN I taped the seems with biracial cloth tape and let it sit until today. Flipped it back right side up and wetted it out and went back with epoxy cabosilmix to fill any imperfections (imagine that) and payed the cloth in a slightly tacky surface. Smoothed out the bubbles and let things sit. Rain came 5 hrs later and covered as much as i could but it was dry to the touch by then. Hoping for the best. Coaming still is not how i want it. Must give it some thought.
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Beautiful looking work!

I grew up in the downriver area of Detroit and have a lot of family in Gibraltar, MI. Many still layout shoot. John Kalash built an incredible boat!

Looking beautiful, I can't wait to see the finish product.





Oxford, CT

first coat of paint used LSB open water grey with a bit of black mixed in. Getting close to crunch time so shortcuts were made. Might see a few bumps and drip marks but it will hunt. If time permits a little camo job may appear. Still need to make skirt.
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camo paint job over The grey base . started the spray skirt sewing. Should be ready by Saturday.
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ready for launch minus spray curtain
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Bob

That really turned out great and given the way you went about it will give many years of trouble free service. Nice work.

Eric

Definately want to see some photos of this boat in action this year!

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i will float her next week . we shall see
plenty of other boats to get wet in a couple days
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