Scaup 18 or Honker.

Brad Taylor (NC)

Brad Taylor (NC)

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First off, ages since I've been on any of the message boards and I mostly lurk. Just a quick update, still building boats on the side as Toller Boatworks and teaching school. However, I took the woodworking/carpentry position at the local high school last year and am in absolute heaven. We built and sold a Duckhunter last year that went to NJ and will help fund future projects.

Long story short, I would like for my Woods 3 kids to build something different this year where they have to rely on plans more, as I can build a DH without ever looking at a set of plans at this point.

I'm leaning towards the Scaup 18 or the Honker 18. Pros & cons are welcome. Any insight from any of you that have built either. After almost 20 years of building boats, it would be pretty cool to try a S&G boat.

We've got about 5K to work with but would like to be able to use some for other shop projects. Here's our school boat and the one I just finished up which is a larger version fo the NFZ and headed to Vermont.

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Thanks in advance,
Brad
 
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Just curious how far $5k will get you in today's plywood market? I heard marine plywood didn't jump as much
 
Can't give you pros or cons on the Scaup or Honker but the boat the kids made looks GREAT!!! Wish my high school had had classes and opportunities like that...
 
Brad

What an awesome job you and your students did on last year's build. The Scaup 18 is a big jump in scale, and the Honker 18 even bigger. Did you find yourself pressed to finish the DH this past year? If so could you make it a two year build? Have you checked to see if your budget will cover the building costs? Both of the boats you are considering will require more time and expense so maybe one way to solve that is to spread it over two school years. All but the seniors will see it start to finish. But then again maybe you are able to hit is hard and can do the project in one year. I don't think you will have any problems with the construction but you will have to come up with a way to safely flip the hull. Another thought would be to try the Scaup, Cackler, Snowgoose, Black Brant, etc.. That would help with the budget and time constraints you have.

Whichever way you go I'm excited to follow the progress and get your thoughts on sewn seam construction as opposed to what you've been using on the duckhunters.

Eric
 
Very cool project, love to see kids getting into woodworking.

If it was me, I'd build a snow goose.

And a broadbill.

[smile]
 
Nick Zito said:
Just curious how far $5k will get you in today's plywood market? I heard marine plywood didn't jump as much
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Dani said:
Can't give you pros or cons on the Scaup or Honker but the boat the kids made looks GREAT!!! Wish my high school had had classes and opportunities like that...
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Thank you Dani!


Eric Patterson said:
Brad

What an awesome job you and your students did on last year's build. The Scaup 18 is a big jump in scale, and the Honker 18 even bigger. Did you find yourself pressed to finish the DH this past year? If so could you make it a two year build? Have you checked to see if your budget will cover the building costs? Both of the boats you are considering will require more time and expense so maybe one way to solve that is to spread it over two school years. All but the seniors will see it start to finish. But then again maybe you are able to hit is hard and can do the project in one year. I don't think you will have any problems with the construction but you will have to come up with a way to safely flip the hull. Another thought would be to try the Scaup, Cackler, Snowgoose, Black Brant, etc.. That would help with the budget and time constraints you have.

Whichever way you go I'm excited to follow the progress and get your thoughts on sewn seam construction as opposed to what you've been using on the duckhunters.

Eric
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Thanks Eric. Not too worried about the budget, if I have to I'll come out of pocket and either donate or get it back when we sell it. Granted without the study plans on either, not a 100% on the bill of materials. I'm able to get the fiberglass and dimensional lumber donated and a good discount on the ply. We were a little pressed for time this year but we spent a good portion of the year setting up the shop and getting settled in. However, if we had to go on a little longer with it, I wouldn't be too concerned. As for flipping we have access to tractors with the Ag teacher. I also like the Saltworks 18 flats boat that could serve double duty as well.


Carl said:
Very cool project, love to see kids getting into woodworking.

If it was me, I'd build a snow goose.

And a broadbill.

[smile]
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Thanks Carl [cool]
 
Larry Eckart said:
Brad,
Where are you in NC and at what high school?

I live in Apex.

Larry
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Hey Larry,

I live in Salisbury and work at South Rowan High. I did however go to Stare, so familiar with Apex.
 
I have made a Scaup 17, and a Honker 20... neither look like the Deblin plans... and both are great are boats
 
Brad
that Flats River Skiff is a very cool looking boat. Might open up your market for selling the project at the end.
I have been in Dave Morton's Devlin which is shorter than the 18, but very capable. Always admired Eric's original build.
I don't think you can go wrong.
Very nice work getting kids using their hand skills to produce a meaningful outcome.
Bob
 
Brad,

Your pic brought back a flood of memories. I started my teaching career in Cabarrus county and moved to York County, SC after grad school. My shop looked EXACTLY like yours! The Ag shop was on one side and the Auto shop on the other. We built scaled concrete canoes and a couple of strip boats while I was there. Lots of fun! Good luck with your project!

Tom
 
A couple of options but not a 100% yet. I have a couple of potential customers that we may be able to build their boat in class as I won't have time until 2023 with already having an order for next year. I've also thought about building the ATC I'm slated to build next year and donating the proceeds to the program as my summers seem to be shorter and shorter...feeling a little behind the 8 ball this year trying to get ready for shows with the cutting boards.
 
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