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recently purchased this boat. no idea what kind of hull it is. it is 14 ft. any info would be much appreciated
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Looks like a South Bay to me.
South Jersey
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the gentleman i got it from really didnt know much about it. the title dates it as a 1990 and homemade. i assumed it was a south bay but was not sure.
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Looks like a Baur Boat.
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Josh Schwenger wrote:
Looks like a South Bay to me.


That was my first impression, sure has the lines of a South Bay.
But i thought they had an inset transom?


Carl
Mobile, AL
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It's NOT a South Bay....
Phil
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There is some info on that boat in the links below. I'm sure you can search up more with the manufacturer name.

http://www.duckboats.net/...do=post_view#p337186

http://www.duckboats.net/...do=post_view#p333644

http://www.duckboats.net/...do=post_view#p332720

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Eric Patterson: Oct 5, 2021, 7:53 AM
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Bauer (sp?) Boat out of Freeport in Nassau County. It's a really good boat.
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Baur grass boat.
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Coastal NJ
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anyone have any interior pics of the boat? im trying to figure out some sort of floor for it.
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Joe~


That is a "Bauer" boat. Ronnie Bauer - who passed in the last year or so - sold them on Long Island. They were designed by Charles Guck, a GE engineer from Connecticut. I believe they were made in Connecticut.


They are a very nice boat and you made a great find.


I think I took this photo from a Craigslist ad in the last couple of years. (Look like your vessel?)









I know a couple of guys that have them. This one belongs to Ben Sohm. I took this photo at a SSWA Duckboat Show several years ago.


All the best,


SJS







Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Joe~


This shows full-length (and full width) plywood floorboards.








There are many ways to make good floorboards. The key is that they keep you off the bottom of the hull and do not move around in use.


I like floorboards that can be removed - at least after the season. Also, I like a hole for a bilge pump for a swamping situation.



All the best,


SJS





Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Carl et al~


South Bay Duckboats do, indeed, have a notched transom - and a rounder nose. These 2 photos are both South Bays.







Also - like Barnegat Bay Sneakboxes and Great South Bay Scooters - there is no stem. The hull up forward is more of a spoon bow. The Guck-Bauer boat has a "knockabout bow" profile. And, overall, she is less melonseed-shaped and more parallel-sided. I'll bet she poles more nicely than a South Bay.









This help?


SJS


Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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steve,
sure looks like my boat that you posted from the craigslist ad.. i happened to pass by a local garage sale, saw there were decoys for sale and noticed the boat in the backyard. turned out he was moving to Tennessee and i couldnt pass it up.

now my question is how would you secure the floor in place? there are no floor supports like there is in a south bay.

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Good morning, Joe~


Are the floorboards fastened now? Are they in good shape?


Depending on how the floorboards are now framed on their underside, II would be tempted to 'glass in a pair of stringers , port and starboard. I would then install a pair of wooden turnbuttons on each board.






Can you live with them for a season? It's always helpful to design changes AFTER you've seen something works/ - then figure out how it can be improved.



Will you be bringing it to the Duckboat Show? (I would encourage everybody to bring their vessels, whether or not they want to compete. Boats make the Show!) I would be happy to look at it and share my thoughts then.



BTW: Does your boat have a transom plug?


All the best,


SJS
Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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the floor that was in it was ROTTED 1/4" ply with some 1x3 fastened to the bottom. when i got the boat it had a water line on the inside of the hull about 6 inches up. when i tried pulling out the plywood floor it all fell apart to the point i couldnt even use it as a pattern.

i was going to try to cut some 1/2" ply to the shape of the floor. the only thing that worries me is the floor is not flat. how would you get the wood to bend with the boat without having bounce in it. if that makes sense.

i will try to make it with the boat to the show. fingers crossed
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Good morning, Joe~


I'm a bit pressed for time - but here's an approach I used on a gunning skiff that had a fair amount of "deadrise" in her sections (the shape of the hull port-to-starboard - whereas curvature along the hull's length is "rocker").


Note that floorboards (duckboards, actually, because they are removable) do not have to run chine-to-chine. You really only need them where you will be sitting or standing.



I carefully measured for some cleats, then ran the floorboard planks fore and aft:






I scribed each cleat to the hull.








Then notched each for the keelson.






I laid out the planks using a "fair batten" to get a nice sweet curve that roughly followed the hull shape.






I trimmed the half-inch clear Pine and eased the edges.






In place.






Here they are painted and ready-to-hunt. The central plank is longer simply because I had the stock - and it gives it an Art Deco flavor in keeping with its 1920s vintage.







If the floor of your vessel is fairly flat, I might instead run short planks athwartships and run a pair of "cleats" (nailers, stringers) port and starboard. I would secure the whole thing with a single turnbutton i the middle of the hull.



Hope this helps!


SJS













Steven Jay Sanford
Pencil Brook Farm
South Cambridge, NY
http://www.stevenjaysanford.com


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Here?s mine?
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What size motor you running? Your boat looks great. How do you like hunting out of it?
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I run a 15 hp Yamaha 2-stroke. They?re such good motors, I bought two? a 2007 and 2008, since they stopped making 2-strokes.
I like the boat?solid.. and with the spray dodger, I can power through some rough waters. It?s also nice to stop the wind and add cover. It may look high, but is right at the top of my head when I?m sitting on a very low chair? like 8? off the deck (I cut down the chair legs). I don?t like laying down while hunting.
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Is the 15hp Enough to get it up on plane?
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The 15 is marginal to get fully on plane.
Mine doesn?t plane-out completely, because I have a lot of stuff on board? and I?m 250 lbs. Wink
but I don?t need a real zippy boat, where I go.
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Joe, when I built my Garvey this summer I built the floor exactly as SS showed above. I used 3/4 marine ply and coated it in truck bed liner. each end has handles cut into it so I can lift it out of the boat if/when desired. Works really well. Its heavy enough that it does not need to be secured into the hull at all. I'll get around to posting that build one of these days.

Bill
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I was able to finish up the floor. Made it exactly how Steve had mentioned. I used 1/2" ply and made turnbuttons to hold it down in place. They really take the bounce out of the floor.
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I like the Turnbuttons idea. I will add some to my BBSB after season ends. I plan to make the Turnbuttons out of White Oak (as I believe SS mentioned) or else some Teak (or Osage Orange or Black Locust?) scraps that I have laying around.

Question: what are good approximate dimensions (length/width/thickness) for the Turnbuttons? My floor is relatively light (either 7/16 or 1/2 inch plywood IIRC--sorry but boat is an hour away from me at present time).

Thanks for any inputs.