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14ft hawk tdb clone trying to gather info
looking at a 14 hawk tdb clone the boat i was told was made in n.j. the boat seems to be well made and quite seaworthy.it is more than 10 inches wider than the tdb classic and has a full transom it seems better than the small motor board. anybody knows any info about this boat or company. thanks joe
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Joe,

They are solid built boats, last built in Glen Gardner NJ about 100 mi from LI. I did some research on these shortly before I purchased my 14' TDB. In my opinion even after having the TDB for years now those Hawk HT14 boats are a great design as they were built around the idea of improving Bill & Dean Clark's design. I believe these boats came about in 2000 and the owner Mark from what I heard passed away a few years back owned "High Tech Marine". Mark used to be a sales dealer for TDB Duck Wrangler and Banks he decided to make his own design Unfortunately not too many were made out there, They are definitely wider, have a better transom design, they did have a kevlar hull design and more resin then the TDB's. The hull weighed more as it was infused with more glass no wood all hand laid built.The factory accessories were outsourced blind, cover etc.. I think made by Hoover's shop. Steve Hoover of Duckwater was close with Mark I believe they sold the boats together way back when up until 07-09 something like that. That hull is often called The Wrangler 15 too, but I have no idea what it was officially called. I picked the TDB over the HT14 back then as I got a deal I couldn't pass up but that HT14 is easier to get into and I liked the other options too. Solid boat don't think you'll regret the purchase. GLWS!

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Anthony Babich: Jan 12, 2022, 6:21 PM
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anthony thanks i appreciate all the info, say hello to you pop thanks joe
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What kind of water do you gun in the Carolina"s ?

Joe
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Joe, have you thought about one of Dave Clark's garvey style duck boat? It's 15' long has a very roomy cockpit and hides extremely well. I purchased one in 2020 and absolutely love it. You can hunt two people easily or hunt alone. Check out the video on estuaryboats.com, you can see if in motion and all grasses up. Here are a few photos of my boat. Good luck in your search.
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Anthony Babich wrote:
Joe,

They are solid built boats, last built in Glen Gardner NJ about 100 mi from LI. I did some research on these shortly before I purchased my 14' TDB. In my opinion even after having the TDB for years now those Hawk HT14 boats are a great design as they were built around the idea of improving Bill & Dean Clark's design. I believe these boats came about in 2000 and the owner Mark from what I heard passed away a few years back owned "High Tech Marine". Mark used to be a sales dealer for TDB Duck Wrangler and Banks he decided to make his own design Unfortunately not too many were made out there, They are definitely wider, have a better transom design, they did have a kevlar hull design and more resin then the TDB's. The hull weighed more as it was infused with more glass no wood all hand laid built.The factory accessories were outsourced blind, cover etc.. I think made by Hoover's shop. Steve Hoover of Duckwater was close with Mark I believe they sold the boats together way back when up until 07-09 something like that. That hull is often called The Wrangler 15 too, but I have no idea what it was officially called. I picked the TDB over the HT14 back then as I got a deal I couldn't pass up but that HT14 is easier to get into and I liked the other options too. Solid boat don't think you'll regret the purchase. GLWS!


I owned a TDB-14' for seven years prior buying and eventually completely rebuilding a TDB-17' classic to what I consider to be a better utilization of the general hull design. Anthony makes some really good points regarding the benefits of the HT-14' over the TDB-14's shortcomings, particularly the benefits of an infused hull over hand lay-up: greater strength and rigidity with less resin and air bubbles within the ply layers. See if you can find information in how many plies of kevlar, how the ply layers were oriented to each other as they were wetted-should be optimally arrayed at a 45 degree angle to the underlayment layer for maximal crush strength.

Good luck!
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thanks for your reply appreciated
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thank you i will take a look
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thanks guys i spoke to steve hoover who was friends with glen he filled me in. it's a well-made boat
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Joe,

The first "real" duck boat I gunned out of was my friend's HT 14. It was a neat boat, and, once we were ready to rig out, was very comfortable. I loved the interior shelving -- especially since slotted decoy bags slid underneath and out of the way. And, it grassed in beautifully.

It had some performance quirks -- slow to plane, porpoising, etc. I declined to purchase it when he put it up for sale.

There may have been design changes later in production. The original version had a narrow (though possibly wider?) transom similar to a TDB Classic. That contributed to the performance quirks.

Like Tom, I also own an Estuary 15' Garvey. A Garvey gives you more boat per foot.


"The perfection of a life with a gun dog, like the perfection of an autumn, is disturbing because you know, even as it begins, that it must end. Time bestows the gift and steals it in the process." -- George Bird Evans

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CPKBasil and Robert: Jan 14, 2022, 6:24 PM
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thank you for your advice i will look into the Garvey