...and to think I almost didn't go!

Dave Parks

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Saturday morning at 11 AM I finallly made up my mind to go to the Gun Show at the fairgrounds in Grants Pass. I fumbled through the gun safe for something to take as trading stock incase I found something I liked. I took a gun that I have not shot in ages, a Winchester Model 50 with factory vent rib and in 95% condition which I valued at about $425.

I left the model 50 in the truck since I didn't want to pack it arounnd the show until I saw something I was interested in. I spent about an hour looking at guns and visiting with several of the dealers I've known for years. I finally got tired of looking and decided to take a break outside for a cup of coffee.

I was sitting on a bench by the front doors and enjoying my coffee when I see this older gent hobbling toward the entrance. He stops by me and says "where do you get coffee around here?" I told him they sell it inside. I see he's got an old paper bag in his hand which obviously contains a handgun of some type. I asked him what he had and he says "an old revolver he brought to trade for a shotgun". I told him....well, I had brought a shotgun to trade for something. He askked me if it was a 12 ga.? And I said yes, it's in my truck right over there, do you want to see it? He said yes and we walked to my truck.

The long and short of it was.....he liked the model 50 Winchester I had and we just swapped guns with no boot either way. He said thanks and left with my shotgun and I stuck his Colt single action .44/40 with 7 1/2" barrel in the back of my belt under my vest and walked back into the Gun Show. I checked the gun in at the door and they put the mandatory zip tie on it so it could not be cocked and I again stuck it in my belt and started looking to do some trading, serious like.

The S.A. Colt was a black powder model made in 1898 and had quite a bit of color left on it. I figured the gun was worth about $2,000. To make a short story long, I went over to a guy I know who always has nice shotgun and looked thru his offerings. I picked out a new CZ Ringneck in 20 ga. 3" with single selective trigger and screw-in chokes and a mint Ruger Red Label 20 ga. 3" with single selective trigger,ejectors & 26" brls. I laid the two guns down on the table and told Jerry the dealer take 'em if he'd knowk off $150 on the two. He said O.K. and I handed him the Colt S.A. and said...You;ve been paid, now lets get the registration going. He looked at me and said, wait,let me look at this for a minute. I told Jerry the longer he looked at it the more money I was going to want for it. We've know each other for years and Jerry said, DAMNIT Dave, you always do this to me.

I came home with teh two shotguns and $100 cash boot from Jerry. And to think I almost didn't go to the gun show today. I think you call it being in the right place at the right time or more likely just dumb luck!

Dave
 
" [font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica] I think you call it being in the right place at the right time or more likely just dumb luck!"

I call FOUL no DOUBLE FOUL. Lets see,,,,,,,,,,,, humm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Ok I got it. For proper atonement and forgiveness send that Ruger to me asap. The $100 cash he gave you can be used to cover the shipping.

Dave, have Judy give me a call when you finally get senile and start giving away all YOUR guns. I wanna be there.
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Sounds like you are living a charmed life there Dave.

Do you mind if I ask, in reference to your Spanish double that you posted a few months back, is that an AYA model shotgun? I saw their website and have been looking for a sweet 20 gauge. They seem to be really goodlooking shotguns.

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I'd have trouble giving up a Colt in .44/40. I guess you felt guilty so you had to get rid of the evidence. hehehe
Now put in the open chokes in that Ringneck and take it down to one of your ponds, if you aren't all froze up, and give us a report on that gun.

Tim
 
you old horse trader. Nice deal. My father loved to buy and sell. He once brought a big collection of of pre '64's kept some of the nice ones and sold the rest. Ended up with 4 guns and did not cost him a penny. You would have enjoyed him Dave. HHG
 
Huntin'Dave. you can use that Red Label 20 anytime you want, just meet me in Montana this fall and you are welcome to USE IT! :^)

Joe, the one Spanish double I have is a 20 ga. 3" mag. made for Stoeger back in teh '60's by Ugartechea and the other is a 20 ga. 3" mag made by Armas Erbi. Ugartechea (U-gar-te-chia) has been around for a long time and like most better Spanish gun makers, their better guns start at around $2K. Ugartchea starts around $1,295. for their field garde SXS's.

Tim, I have a First model S.A. 4-3/4" in .45 long colt and never liked the 7-1/2" S.A.'a unless they fell into the serial number range of those issued to the 7th Calvary. And in 45+ years of collecting, I have only owned one of them. Besides.....John Wayne wouldn't be caught dead with anything but a 4-3/4" S.A. :^)

Lee & Ray, contempt is the purest form of flattery known to man :^)

WisPete, That big 'ol horeshow ain't heavy, he's my brother. :^)

HHG, You bet Hank, no old gun collector likes anything better than to have a good long sitdown talk about old guns. Thier collecting storeis never end, one story told reminds the other of another story. Winter your way was late in coming and I hope it leaves in early March. Hope ye & family are faring well.

Dave
 
pardon me while i bang my head on the desk......thump..................thump...ow...............thump



all I managed this weekend was a xm15-e2a m4

would sure loved to have had that colt
 
Dave, you ever seen the movie "Life of Brian"? You remind me of the guy in the market scene. "Come on, you have to haggle with me!"

Nice score.
 
Great stuff Dave. I have a stack of receipts from gun buys and sells that my father had over the years. My Mom just gave it to me recently. It goes back to the early 60's. I have not gone through the whole pile but it brings back a lot of memories. Have fun trading. Mary and Hank are doing very well thanks. Little Hank just got a 20ga Berretta 391 youth gun for xmas. Since he shot 7 out of 20 this fall at sporting clays Mary and Hank both want to start shooting more sporting clays again. Looks like a lot of fun in front of us. HHG
 
Hank , That reminds me of a young lawyer from my home town. He didn't have much money and being married put himself though law school selling pots and pans. After getting his law degree and setting up practice, not making much money while getting established. He said it didn't look good for him selling pots and pans. So he became a expert on double barrel shot guns. He would visit all the gun shops within a hundred mile area and ask if they had any double barrel shot guns. At the time during the late 50's and early 60's every one was trading in there old guns for new pump guns or a better rifle. He said during the first two or three years he did better buying and selling guns than lawyering. He turned out to be a outstanding lawyer.
 
Dave, I bought a CZ Ringneck in 20 ga two years ago and still think its a great gun for the money. But the reason I still have it is because I can't seem to miss a bird (doves primarily) with it. Seriously, it fits me well and I shoot it very, very well.

Best of luck with yours!

Preston
 
The Ringneck sure feels good to me too and I will know better how it shoots in the next day or two when I shoot some clays with it. One thing that I noticed was that this gun with factory butt pad is a tad long, a full 14.5 inches and I may have to take it down to 14-1/8" if I do much hunting with it in cold weather when I have to wear a duck hunting coat. I had two of my doubles shortened last month when I had new pads put on them. Both were cut to an over-all length of 14.0 for winter shooting.

Do you know offhand what brand gun chokes interchange with the CZ Ringneck? Also, who carries spare chokes for the Ringneck?

Thanks,

Dave
 
Dave, my Ringneck came with seven chokes - five in a little black box in addition to the two in the barrels - so I have had no need to research choke interchangeability. I have only used mine for doves and clays and an IC/M choke combo has suited that shooting perfectly.

I understand your stock adjustment, but we have no pheasants here (alas). I am 6'3" and combined with the fact that it is a warm weather gun for me, the length of pull suits. I have thought about a Pachymar Decelerator clays pad, though.

I am headed to Currituck tomorrow for ducks, geese and a swan. (The CZ will stay at home, as I am taking my beloved Remington SP-10 and an SBE II for this work.) Wish me luck as I hope to have some pictures worthy of posting to the group when I return.

Best,

Preston
 
Thanks guy's,

I bookmarked that choke tube page. I found that there are 3 Rezzini's in Italy and the Verona was made by I.Rezzini and is is now imported by Cortona. In the meantime they have gone up a little in price. I will have to contact them to see how much they get for the two barrel 20/28 set now. The gun in any gauge by itself is now $2,950.

http://www.cortonashotguns.com/products/prestige/

Thanks again and good luck on the hunt Preston.

Dave
 
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