Anyone seen new Remington scatterguns on the racks?
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Clinton John
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Nope. Only "new" Remington I have seen at a gun shop was 2 years ago. When I bought a adl 700 in 6.5 creedmoor from a local shop.
Barrel is stamped RemX.
Local shop has never gotten another new Remington, even though he has tried.
I do see new 870's listed online but nothing new in my local shops.
But that's not surprising either. Since We can't get local shops to even order Howa's to have on display much less up for sale. All the locals want to have is either Bergara or Tikka in 30 cal or 270.
Barrel is stamped RemX.
Local shop has never gotten another new Remington, even though he has tried.
I do see new 870's listed online but nothing new in my local shops.
But that's not surprising either. Since We can't get local shops to even order Howa's to have on display much less up for sale. All the locals want to have is either Bergara or Tikka in 30 cal or 270.
Chip
From 2014 to somewhere around 2020 Remington manufactured their guns right here in Huntsville, Al. That's about the same time they fell on hard times. Numerous multi-multi million dollar lawsuits from Sandyhook families and other wrongful death lawsuits took their toll. Plus Remington's reputation was going downhill due to them making guns cheaply. They went bankrupt and sold what was left to the Roundhill Group. From what I gather ammunition division was split off and bought by another company and is once again being made in Lonoke, AR. The Roundhill Group built a new plant in LaGrange, GA for manufacturing all their firearms (a lot of the models have been dropped to let them focus on the best sellers) under the Remington name. From what I've read, like you said, they are making the 870 again and are making quality a priority. They do list 28 gauge and .410 on their website so I would hazard to guess some dealers have them and if they can survive in today's market they will become more widely available. If not I bet the name is sold and manufacturing goes overseas to milk what they can out of the name. Not a good time in history to sell hunting arms. Hunter numbers keep dropping.
Good luck in your quest.
From 2014 to somewhere around 2020 Remington manufactured their guns right here in Huntsville, Al. That's about the same time they fell on hard times. Numerous multi-multi million dollar lawsuits from Sandyhook families and other wrongful death lawsuits took their toll. Plus Remington's reputation was going downhill due to them making guns cheaply. They went bankrupt and sold what was left to the Roundhill Group. From what I gather ammunition division was split off and bought by another company and is once again being made in Lonoke, AR. The Roundhill Group built a new plant in LaGrange, GA for manufacturing all their firearms (a lot of the models have been dropped to let them focus on the best sellers) under the Remington name. From what I've read, like you said, they are making the 870 again and are making quality a priority. They do list 28 gauge and .410 on their website so I would hazard to guess some dealers have them and if they can survive in today's market they will become more widely available. If not I bet the name is sold and manufacturing goes overseas to milk what they can out of the name. Not a good time in history to sell hunting arms. Hunter numbers keep dropping.
Good luck in your quest.
Damn... I havent worked in the gun industry for 10 years now. I will admit, when the versamax came out, I was given a deal by one of the reps that came in, that I couldnt pass up. When I took one apart and compared everything side by side to a taken apart Benelli M4, I saw what they did. I had to try one. Besides the stupid oversized forearm (lots of skinnier aftermarket forearms for these available), its been the absolute best semi I have ever beaten on. I even bought a second one. I dont think I could ever wear out both in my lifetime, and im not the easiest on my shotguns. I have fallen in love with hunting with an over under, and its the gun that comes out 90% of the time. But I always carry one of my remingtons as a back up or for goose hunts.
With that little tid bit... im going to have to look to see if the versamax is even being made still. I had no idea this was happening in the world of Remington lol. I guess I live under a rock.
With that little tid bit... im going to have to look to see if the versamax is even being made still. I had no idea this was happening in the world of Remington lol. I guess I live under a rock.
I purchased one two years ago for turkey hunting. Saw it on display and it came home with me. 12 gauge
If you want to see what's available out there, go on GunBroker. I saw a few new 1100s and 870s. I believe one 1100 was a 410
The video below is about declining gun makers. I've linked it to start at the segment on Remington, which this video ranks as the #1 greatest tragedy in American sporting arms.
I got curious and looked at other classic US pump shotguns for hunting to see who still makes one. In 2024 Browning discontinued their BPS according to several trade magazine articles. It looks like Remington is on life support as folks wait to see if they can turn their business around and start making them in numbers that put them on the shelves, and since Browning threw in the towel that leaves the venerable Ithaca 37 and Mossberg pumps. Never in my life did I think I would mention Mossberg in the same breath as Remington, Browning, and Ithaca. Are the Italian makers hurting too or is this a case of they did in the US companies with a lot of help from bad management, politics and the courts?
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I hated the BPS! My pops is left handed. Its what I started with. one day I had the bright idea I was taking that shotgun down to pieces and putting it back together like a puzzle. What a nightmare of a shotgun to put back together. Load and eject through the bottom was ideal for a left handed shooter to be able to hand down to right handed shooters, but good god!
Kind of sad isnt it Eric? Mossberg any good now? They never were when I was around guns daily 10ish years ago.
Ive been around and shot many benelli Nova/supernova. The pump always felt clunky to me but they were always reliable. I actually used my college money to purchase my very first SBE2 and I had about 100k rounds through it when it literally broke jammed to the point I had to disassemble it to get the shells out of it. Found the trigger assembly just fell apart. Rebuilt and was offered a price that I couldnt refuse and thats what funded my versamax and its been flat out the best and most reliable semi I have ever put through the ringers.
Only shotgun I still want to add to add to the collection is a black supervinci one day. I hated them when they came out, never trusted how they came apart, but I beat myself up for not picking one up now.
Clinton John
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I have a Mossberg sa-28 that's been a great gun.
Only Mossberg I have ever owned.
Been there!
How America’s Oldest Gun Maker Went Bankrupt: A Financial Engineering Mystery (Published 2019)
When a secretive private equity firm bought Remington, sales were strong and the future bright. A decade later, the company couldn’t escape its debts.
I believe the demise of Remington was intentional. They succeeded where legislation and litigation failed. Read the article and make up your own mind. RM
jam o matic or single slingers has been my experience with mossbergs. I owned one, that found a new home QUICKLY and ive tried many from others, and they have all been the same.
This statement fits the source lol.
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I don’t think it was intentional, just the expected outcome about half the time when private equity firms with no interest in the products or workers take over a company. It’s happened over and over again. Investors got their money and profits, that’s all they cared about.
I also try to see the best in people but did you read the complete article? RM
Yes, they basically bought the company, accepted all the incentives and then neglected everything. Everything. Greed pure and simple, didn’t give a shite about the company, the products, the history or the people. Just configured the financials to get their money and shed their liability.
Chip M.
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I've put my Versa through everything twice and it asks for more. ONLY complaint is the slow action on that big 3.5" but it always goes bang.
Interesting... ive never shot 3.5" through mine. i shoot everything from crane to teal with 3" 2's. Just keep it simple. My honest to god only complaint is how far both mine spit the spent hulls out of the action. If we are hunting layout blinds or close quarters, its given that I get the far right side of the group, if hunting with me semi. Otherwise guys take shells to the face or they get ejected across their face while they are making their shots. Both of mine do it, even with light dove loads. I bet the shell gets sent 8-10 feet out of the action. My benelli used maybe send a shell a foot or two, but these versamax SLING the spent hulls.
I agree Chip, im not exactly easy on anything I use for hunting fowl. And I converted one to a snow goose gun after real heavy use on the dairy shooting pigeons and 3-4 season of fowl consistently. I just recently went to an O/U so this first one got LOTS of use. I truly feel like it just got nice and broke in when I started using this second one. This second one is barely even used, and everything is still nice and tight, but that first one I used a ton, just so smooth with everything now. Remington did a real nice job with these versamax shotguns. I will likely not need to buy another shotgun for a very long time.