Beats the heck out of the trout I caught this morning. 
Brain trust plumbing help...
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Beats the heck out of the trout I caught this morning.
It doesn't look it in the pics, but it was 32". I was thrilled when she got it to net.
OK, here is today's update...
The female thread on the valve is bottoming out on the male elbow. Female thread below and you can see the ring in the pipe dope where the male bottomed out.
Here is the male in situ from above (I'm getting pretty good with the scope and thinking of proctology as a retirement side gig). The male elbow is obviously a well built thing made from a heavy casting with square sides and a long arm on it. Who knows what the thread is.
Side view (male fitting is upside down in view)... threads look tapered and of course it was now covered with pipe dope which is a problem for my next planned step.
I improvised a metal bristle brush on the end of a chimney cleaning rod that I could in index into the hole in the male fitting and polish the threads by chucking in a drill. Wetted with acetone, I got it pretty clean.
I loaded up the female threads with Permatex water pump RTV gasket material (thinking it is the most waterproof and the RTV would give me the best chance of getting it apart (vs epoxy)) and they are in coitus curing for tomorrow (I believe our LDS friends would refer to it as "soaking" (look it up
)).That is all for now...
Tough to tell in the photos, but that looks like a hose bib male/female. I'm guessing there should be a rubber compression washer in the female. Hope your solution works.
The female is tapered no question (see the parts diagram) and it was not machined for a washer (can't see well in the photos, but where the washer would bear it is rough casting). The reason it looks like that is that septum is where the plunger bears from above.
I had the same thing happen to me. Came out one day, and around my anti-freeze hydrant was puddled. I just dug it up and replaced. It took me like 30 min max, put some gravel around the drain hole so it wouldnt plug up and its been fine since. They arent that expensive to replace with brand new if i remember right. Luckily mine wasnt 7 feet down, so I was able to get some plumbers tape on the thread, but I faintly remember the new ones coming with an internal rubber washer like on hoses have to create the seal. You might try something like that?
Otherwise I think you are on to maybe an adapter once you figure out the exact threading of you male end down in that hole. I would think once you figured that out, you could find an adapter that fit right on the male end, and then built it up taller so the female end didnt bottom out and created a better seal. Think it would be a 3/4” female to male adapter right?
Otherwise I think you are on to maybe an adapter once you figure out the exact threading of you male end down in that hole. I would think once you figured that out, you could find an adapter that fit right on the male end, and then built it up taller so the female end didnt bottom out and created a better seal. Think it would be a 3/4” female to male adapter right?
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I let it cure for a couple days and a have a good seal, BUT… I do have a leak elsewhere. The leak is behind what I can see, likely the supply and elbow junction.
Soooo…. At some point I’ll be digging it up. Since it is an unknown and not a leak at the threads, I have less trust in it.
There is some spray to the leak and it sprays the threads from back in where I can’t see now that I have a good look at it.
Well piss up a rope! I hate new home ownership. All the flaws always show their ugly face that first year or two. I went from city living to being more rural. Ive become very good with a well now. I have had my fair share of water issues in my current home. I went from having a single sand filter for my entire home with 1 pressure tank that was mostly filled with sand (how it maintained pressure to the house, which is insanely wild to think thats how it passed pressure inspection) to a fully redone double pressure tank, triple filter and a specific sulfur filter I installed over time. My water is GOOD now and pressure is only low if Im running multiple devices at once but rare. That first year, I had to replace every appliance as the sand completely destroyed them and had to flush all my water lines in the home, which included pulling every water line and flushing into a 5 gallon bucket until clear, but only AFTER I did all the new work in the well house. Then I discovered the lovely egg smell in my water when I didnt have all the sand in the lines to filter that out which made me have to add in a fancy smancy new sulfur filter.I let it cure for a couple days and a have a good seal, BUT… I do have a leak elsewhere. The leak is behind what I can see, likely the supply and elbow junction.
Soooo…. At some point I’ll be digging it up. Since it is an unknown and not a leak at the threads, I have less trust in it.
There is some spray to the leak and it sprays the threads from back in where I can’t see now that I have a good look at it.
But one morning woke up to low pressure, walked outside and had a brand new 4 foot fountain spewing out the side of my house. It was a blessing in disguise as I had plans to pour concrete right over where the leak happened in the next spring. I dug and rerouted to an irrigation housing away from where the concrete would be poured, then ran another 120 feet off that irrigation housing and made a drip system. But leaks suck, i hate leaking pipes, I hate leaking roofs, and the worst part of a leak on a well system, if severe enough it will kill your electric bill. Hopefully a slow leak for you and thats not the case.
Agree on the home ownership. At least this house is newer (2008) and was planned and built by the owner (as in he served as the GC) - it has a lot of nice touches you would want in a custom home and things are pretty well done. We do not have a building code here, and the only thing the county messes with is the septic system, so there is a lot of room for contractors to wing things.
We are in the middle of having a pole barn put up and this hydrant is in the middle of the work area, so I want it done but I'll probably hold off until they are done and only turn it on when we need to irrigate until fixed.
Ding, ding, ding. Winner, winner!
I had just had a vasectomy completed when i found my puddle of water. I got down on all 4's and dug it up with a small garden shovel. Like I said, mine was only about 3 feet deep. My significant other was having a cow and yelling. She was not happy with me at all. She kept saying how the doc told me I needed to rest and ice and take it easy. I said.... NICELY..... He also told me I needed to listen to my body and my body is saying that this leak could get a whole lot worse and needs to be fixed, so we are fixing this shit. She walked away so mad lol. But good god, it was some of the hardest digging ive ever done in my life, but she never knew it was. Was so happy when I twist the new one on, and test everything and there was no more leak.
Normally I'd give a thumbs up. Under the circumstances that seems like taunting.
Can't top that story.
I mean.... i didnt think i could make things worse, i just paid to decommission the bits anyways. Pain is just pain and if tolerable, then it shouldnt slow anyone down I suppose. Now 5 years from now, knowing my luck, I will have a little kiddo on the way. Ill curse that damn water spicket forever!
Same as above....under the circumstances, a thumbs up might be inappropriate.
But an evil laugh fits!
I made the mistake of dragginga large heavy object in the yard 4 days after the same procedure, which I did because I was “feeling better”. 2 hours later it was max Tylenol and ice packs all over again for 24 hours. And nothing strenuous for a week. 20 years later and still no more kiddos.
Well, I think we all knew it was gonna come down to a shovel and a big hole!
No in all reality, I should of had a kiddo by now with all the mistakes i made in life. Im like 99.9% sure im infertile naturally but went ahead and had the vasectomy to just make it 99.999999% sure. Did it more to get my woman off all her BC as that stuff really is just nasty over so much time. Guess it was my turn to make sure it didnt happen. But as a nurse and speaking with urologists, you would be shocked how many times it fistulas back to working order again. Happens more than people realize. The body is an amazing thing when it wants to be.
Anyways, back to the plumbing in the ground that connects to a well on Tods property.
Men are the worst! I see this after lots of surgeries and back for hernia repairs. The "feeling better" is a BAD sign and honestly for this procedure they do tell us to "listen to our body" which is like the worst thing to tell active men. The nephron tubes actually connect all the way up to just below the belly button, if i remember right, so it makes sense the pain that can come from it. But because theres no real incisions to the abdomen and not significant risk for dehiscence, thats why they say this.
I only had that sensation of "getting kicked in the balls" for like 24 hours and then I was good to go. Every once in awhile I get a twinge, and I swear to god if these twinges are my body trying to make shit work again, ill lop em off myself with a machete. The world doesnt need this genetic pool passed on.
My plumbing is intact, but leaks more than I’d like.