well dave you have inspired me yet again.i seen a for sale sign on the road and low and behold its for the point i was hunting off of ,now all i gotta do is talk the missus and family into it and then if it passes mustard on to talk the bank into a low payment mortgage for the next 25 years,,,,man it sure would be nice to walk out the door walk to the bay jump in a boat or simply walk out to the set up on the point